Hi John,

This looks like an interesting experiment but I don't have a photometer so I
cannot help directly.

In "Sundials Australia", John Ward described a set of photometric
experiments to measure the umbra and penumbra shadows. He used a long tube
to focus photometer on a limited section of the sky, and a variety of
gnomons to cast shadows. He then compared the experimental result to a
simple mathematical model, a few points calculated to produce a histogram.
Sorry but I do not have a copy of the book. I read a library copy while in
Australia. Perhaps he published the results as a BSS paper.

The math to generate a continuous function should be interesting. It is much
more to it than the umbra/penumbra shadows. First there is the fairly simple
area of the circular section vs position relationship as the gnomon crosses
the sun. Then there is limb darkening to account for. Finally there are the
light scattering and diffusion effects which determine the contrast between
the full shadow and sunlit areas. No wonder that John Ward used a simple
model!

Roger Bailey
Walking Shadow Designs
N 51  W 115

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Subject: Need Photometer for Conference


Hello Conference People

I was wondering if any of you could bring a good photometer with you to the
conference. On tour at Kitt Peak, I'd like to take lumens measurements of
the full sun and the penumbral and umbral regions of the sundial's shadow
edge. Fred and I are working on neat experiment we'd like to conduct with
the group, but we need a photometer.


John

John L. Carmichael Jr.
Sundial Sculptures
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson Arizona 85718
USA

Tel: 520-696-1709
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