Hi Roger,

Thank you for sending the sketch "DST Epicycle.pdf".

Your concept is interesting and applicable when using a movable gnomon.

When, however,  I act myself as gnomon - the attractive property of the
analemmatic dial - the distance between my position and the time correction
indicator will be too great to read the correction I suppose.

Willy Leenders

Hasselt, Flanders in Belgium.






Roger Bailey wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anselmo Pérez Serrada
> >Sent: September 3, 2002 11:17 PM
>
> >Roger is right on this of the double dateline, but (once again) what
> >about the EoT?  I can't see in the pictures any lines like these at
> Longwood Gardens
> >approximating (by minimum squares, I believe) the EoT deviation.
>
> >Anselmo
>
> Hi Anselmo, Fer Mac and all,
>
> Let me propose a new idea to correct for the equation of time on analemmatic
> sundials. Previous methods focused on the date line and the analemma. The
> analemma pattern often seen on the central axis can be used as an indicator
> of the EQT error at noon but fails to correct at other times of the day.
> Complex multiple analemmas as described in Fred Sawyer's Longwood Gardens
> article can provide a good approximation but such designs have not been
> frequently used.
>
> Let's change the focus of the correction from the date line and analemma to
> the hour points. Most analemmatic dials have large hour markers of an
> arbitrary size, scaled to look right and provide a clear if imprecise time
> indication. The hour markers can be modified to provide a simple correction
> scale for the EQT. This idea works particularly well when two sets of hour
> markers are used to correct for daylight savings. Have a look at the sketch
> "DST Epicycle.pdf" attached to the accompanying email to see the basis for
> this idea. The sketch is rough and attached to the other email to get it
> past the size filter. The attachment is under 20 kb so I hope it works.
>
> The EQT is caused by two periodic phenomenon: the elliptical orbit of the
> earth with a once per year frequency and the tilt of the earths axis with a
> twice per year frequency. These periodic components are superimposed giving
> us the typical curve shown in the attached sketch. Yes, there are higher
> order terms but for this simple approximate correction they can be ignored.
> Lets separate the two curves into the large blue Fall - Winter curve with an
> amplitude of about +/-15 minutes and the smaller red Spring - Summer curve
> with an amplitude of about +/- 5 minutes. These are clearly periodic curves
> that can be approximated with sine curves. These sine curves can be
> generated with circles with the date plotted around the circumference and
> the perpendicular to the axis indicating the time correction on that date.
> Does all of this sound familiar. Yes, we are back to what I have called
> correction epicycles!
>
> How would we apply this concept? First, you should have two hour ellipses of
> different diameters and appropriately scaled date lines. One ellipse would
> show spring and summer time when the declination is positive and a daylight
> savings correction appropriate. The hour markers here could be small, as the
> correction is only +/- 5 minutes. The other hour Fall Winter standard time
> ellipse would have larger markers for the +/- 15 minute correction. The
> correction epicycle would be sized for each hour point as they vary a little
> due as a function of the time and latitude.  A small offset of a minute or
> so would have to be applied to each hour marker.
>
> How would you use it? As usual, place the gnomon on the central axis on the
> appropriate date point. See where the shadow falls on the hour ellipse
> appropriate for the date. This gives you the solar zone time (corrected for
> longitude). For standard and daylight sayings time, correct for the EQT by
> going to the closest hour marker correction epicycle. From the date around
> the circumference, drop a perpendicular to the axis of the epicycle to
> estimate the applicable time correction. Then check your watch, smile and
> say "Cool! It really works!"
>
> How accurate is it? It is not mathematically correct but a good
> approximation. I would guess it would be within a minute or so +/-.
> Considering the gnomon width and penumbra shadow fuzziness, you cannot read
> the dial more precisely that this. In any case the correction scale applies
> only at the hour points. All times between the hour points would have to be
> interpolated and this is prone to error.
>
> I am putting out this proposal for comment. I recognize that the
> implementation will require a lot of careful design calculations and
> accurate construction but I believe it is a good solution to the long
> perplexing problem of correcting civil time to solar time on analemmatic
> sundials.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Roger Bailey
> Walking Shadow Designs
> N 51  W 115
>
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