Hi all,

What am I missing here?  It seems that "rising" and "descending" are
again quite positive/negative, spring/fallish.  Whatever terms one
comes up with must be equal in that they have to represent the same
season to both sides; only at a different time.  I know that the "signs"
of the zodiac are not even aligned with the sun anymore and that astrology
is in much ill repute; so possibly the old system is far enough removed
that it can continue to be used here as an ID point. I personally like the
"first point of Aries" concept, but do people in the south associate "Libra"
with spring so that this will work equally?  Is this zodiac also dominated
by northern chauvinism?  I know that I associate "Aries" with spring but is
it because of being northern?  It seems that whatever is picked, it must
have only to do with the time of year and since we use "Tropic of Cancer/
Capricorn" it would be nice to stay in that form unless these have summer/
winter type of implications.

BUT... is anything unbiased??? I think that the calendar months are season
neutral?  They don't seem to have the right ring though, in English anyway. 

Further ramblings...as my mind slips away...
Astronomically speaking, I think that again the south came out on the
negative end by definition.  Nothing personal.  When you get an army as
big as ours, you can define the world how you like!!
Also, what really made me first wonder about astrology when I was younger
was that Spring" or Aries was supposed to represent the "beginnings".  Now
this would seem to make "Libras" in the southern hemisphere more Aries(ish).
I still don't know how this is supposed to work around the world?  And then
what of people born on the equator, where it seems there must be just two
summers and two falls?  And at the actual Poles...with only one "day" and
one "night" per year... is a day a season?  Etc.  Boy, this might help make
sense of some biblical time lines!  Anyway I hope you all can work this
out because it does seem to need major work (like me).

Fritz


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: How do we call the equinoxes?


Hi,

        My vote would be to revive an old astronomical/astrological 
distinction which has a charming poetical flavour.  (vernal and 
autumnal have a 'hemisipheric chauninism' which as a southerner I 
emphatically reject, of course!).  The terms I have in mind are 
"dragon's head" --"the ascending mode of a planet" and "dragon's 
tail" --"the descending mode".  What do you think, Anselmo?

>  > Don't you think it'd be better to call the equinoxes 'ascending
>>  equinoxe' and 'descending equinoxe' instead of 'vernal equinox'
>>  and 'autumn equinox'? Do you know if the International Astronomy Union
>  > said something about this?
>

cheers,

Peter

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