The 'glue' used to stick car mirrors is actually a very strong double sided 
sticky pad. Available from replacement car windsrceen fitters.
David.
> 
> From: "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri 25/Jul/2003 17:52 CEST
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: SGS Gnomon Attachment
> 
> Hi Tony:
> 
> That's great information to know. I have a feeling the bolting method
> through glass or the metal structure would be better than the "car mirror"
> method.
> 
> I wonder what method the glassers use to drill glass?  I'll have to ask
> them.  But, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm going to try to drill a hole the
> same way I drill holes in stone using a high speed diamond sphere with H2O.
> But I have no intension of make stained glass sundial windows myself. But I
> might try some stone inlays someday.
> 
> 
> John L. Carmichael Jr.
> Sundial Sculptures
> 925 E. Foothills Dr.
> Tucson Arizona 85718
> USA
> 
> Tel: 520-696-1709
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Website: <http://www.sundialsculptures.com>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Sundial Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:14 AM
> Subject: Re: SGS Gnomon Attachment
> 
> 
> > John Carmichael asked:
> > >
> > >What do you think is the best method to attach a metal rod gnomon to a
> > >stained glass sundial window?
> > >
> > >It's the most frequent question I've been getting from the "Glassers". I
> > >do have an article that Mike Cowham sent me that mentions that in the
> > >seventeenth century, a threaded gnomon was usually bolted to a hole cut
> in
> > >the glass.  Of course that resulted in a lot of cracked glass and missing
> > >gnomons, especially if the glass was thin.
> > >
> > I've no practical experience of attaching gnomons to glass but would like
> > to experiment with:
> >
> > 1.  modern adhesives to attach a gnomon with a small baseplate.  If it
> > drops off after twenty years just clean it up and re-attach. The glues
> > used to stick interior mirrors on car windscreens would be a useful
> > beginning perhaps?
> >
> > 2.  attaching through a drilled hole with e.g. a 20mm brass disc on each
> > side of the glass and soft vinyl washers in a sort of 'sandwich' squeezed
> > gently tight with a nut on the inside.  The gnomon could be silver
> > soldered to the outer disc before assembly.  Twin bolts would prevent
> > rotation.
> >
> > A very safe way to 'drill' glass is to use a short piece of thick-walled
> > copper tube of e.g. 6mm outer diameter with a few radial sawcuts in an
> > electric drill.
> > Garages are a good source of the right stuff.
> >
> > Place the glass flat on a firm/soft supporting surface, e.g. cork, and
> > build a tiny 'dam' around the intended hole site with Plasticene.  Mix a
> > little turpentine with carborundum powder, place a few drops within the
> > dam and you can abrade a neat clean hole in no time but reduce the
> > pressure at breakthrough or the hole edges may flake.  A thin piece of
> > wood with a 6mm hole will guide the tube until it begins cutting after
> > which it is just gently lifted and replaced to refresh the abrasive.
> >
> > Have fun
> >
> > Tony Moss
> > -
> >
> 
> 
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