Gianni,

You wrote:

>  Because of these changes of the EOT from one year to the other it is
wrong,
> in my
> opinion,   to use values very precise in calculating sundials.  They may
be
> useful to find the exact istant of the noon in a given day, etc.
>

I don't fully agree with your arguments.

If drawing the EoT curves ( analemmas ) on a sundial try values with a
reasonable high accuracy.
But use the combination sun's declination and EoT.
These combinations don't hardly change in a man's life.

Also declination lines on a sundial are accurate for such a period and so
far you may use the values of any year.

I think that's even better then using average values for a leap year period.

Problems occur if date lines are drawn.
The relation between date on one hand and sun's declination / EoT on the
other hand changes in the leap year period as you wrote.

The result is that in fact date lines aren't precize on a dial but
declination lines are.
Declination marks on an EoT curve would be better then date marks for
accuracy, however, many times I would prefer date marks or datelines.
A dial isn't a precision instrument  in most of the times.


I fully agree with you writing::
They may be useful to find the exact instant of the noon in a given day.

But than the correct values for the running year have to be used because you
also use the date.


Best wishes, Fer.

Fer J. de Vries

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gianni Ferrari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "SUNDIAL MAILING LIST" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Precise EOT Program - Comments and a correction


>
> Hank,
>
> some years ago also I have obtained the Fourier approximation of the EOT
> from its MEAN values on a 48 year period (from 2000 to 2047)  ( I
published
> it in 2000)
>
> The coefficients that I have found are practically equal to those found by
> you and precisely:
>
>   t = 2 * pi * (j - 1) / 365.2421897
>    EOT = 0 +
>          + 7.3656 * Cos(t + 1.5113) _
>          + 9.9158 * Cos(2 * t + 1.9574) _
>          + 0.3060 * Cos(3 * t + 1.8347) _
>          + 0.2027 * Cos(4 * t + 2.3213)_
>
>  Where j = N-1  and N = number of the day in the year  (32 for February
the
> 1st)
>
> I have also calculated the difference ( true  exact value - mean value
from
> formula ) in every day of the perod (17532 days) and I have found a
maximum
> error less than 18 sec.
>
> The values (exact) of the EOT changes from one year to the other as in the
> follwing example.
>
> EOT calculated on  December 25 at noon in Greenwich :
>
>
>       DAY                    Time Eq.
>
>  DEC 25  2003 Th    - 6.90 sec
>
>  DEC 25  2004 Sa    +16.74
>
>  DEC 25  2005 Su    + 8.64
>
>  DEC 25  2006 Mo    + 1.68
>
>  DEC 25  2007 Tu    - 5.82
>
>  DEC 25  2008 Th     +15.72
>
>  DEC 25  2009 Fr   + 9.00
>
>  DEC 25  2010 Sa    + 0.84
>
>
> The mean value = 6.54 sec.  On  December 26 the mean value = 36.2 sec
>
>  Because of these changes of the EOT from one year to the other it is
wrong,
> in my
> opinion,   to use values very precise in calculating sundials.  They may
be
> useful to find the exact istant of the noon in a given day, etc.
>
>  A regard
>
> Gianni Ferrari
>
>
>
> P.S. -  The EOT is non changed from the atmospheric refraction
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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