Hi Tony,

I am pleased to hear that you are thinking of travelling to Beijing. Carpe
Diem!

I calculate the number of frequent flier points you will earn as 4904 miles
each way. This is based on the equation for Great Circle Distance:
Cos(GCD)= Sin(Lat1)x Sin(Lat2) + Cos(Lat1) x Cos(Lat2) x Cos(Long1-Long2)
This returns an answer in degrees. Multiply by 69.0468 for statute miles.
You will recognize that the equation is the same form, the cosine rule for
spherical triangles, as the familiar equation for altitude.

I saw the instruments of the ancient observatory during an early morning
walk in Beijing in 1992. Unfortunately the observatory didn't open until
after we had left for the airport. I was tempted to scale the wall for a
closer look but decided the risks of falling or being arrested were too
great.

There are some useful websites showing the instruments. I was led to these
with the link that Claude Hartman mentioned last week.
http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/teaching/heavenly.html
Follow the links to ancient instruments and scrolling down to the Armillary
spheres of Guo Shoujing at the Purple Mountain Observatory at Nanjing. The
site,
http://vm.nthu.edu.tw/science/astra/
is in Chinese/Martian. Just click on the links on the right to see the
pictures of the instruments.

It is interesting to note that these instruments were built 350 years before
the Jesuits arrived in Beijing. At this time the Chinese were way ahead of
Western Europe which was just waking up after the dark ages. These
instruments show that the Chinese knew astronomy and celestial navigation.
On your flight over read the recent book "1421: The Year the Chinese
Discovered the World" by Gavin Menzies. See www.1421.tv This account of the
voyages of the Chinese treasure ships is a great made-for-tv book. He weaves
quite a story from odd bits of knowledge and old relics. Although many of
his claims are outrageous, unsubstantiated and erroneous, he makes the point
that the Chinese were the center of world civilization at that time, and
then collapsed inward from the costs of expansion. Can history teach us
something here.

OK, I concede that your countryman, John Holywood (or Johan Sacrobosco) of
Yorkshire  wrote "De Sphera" in 1220, bringing Ptolemy's advice on how to
construct an armillary sphere to the Western Europe.


Cheers,

Roger Bailey
Walking Shadow Designs
N48.6  W 123.4 which is 4516 great circle miles from Bedlington


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Sent: February 4, 2004 3:03 PM
To: Sundial Mail List
Subject: Latitude and Linear distances.


Fellow Shadow Watchers,
                       I'm so glad that I asked what seemed to be simple
question about latitude and linear distances because I have learned so
much from the erudite responses - although I must confess that some of
them leave me feeling well out of my depth.

As I recall it the TV graphic which gave rise to my query was, at best,
an oversimplification if not entirely erroneous so honour is satisfied.
On the debit side my personal concept of 'Latitude' has required a quick
overhaul in the light of the diagrams kindly supplied by Bill Gottesman
and Rudolf Hooijenga.   My personal conceptualisation is mainly
'graphical' rather than 'numerical' so these did the trick for me.

As an added bonus my casual comment about the Chinese astronomical
instruments, clearly identified in Roger Bailey's posting, has inspired
me with the best possible reason for planning a visit to Beijing at some
time in the future.

Many thanks to everyone who responded.

Tony Moss

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