Hello Albert, et al

Alas, a dial such as the one you refer to won't work at all well at such a low latitude. Spend a moment or two with your favorite sundial program and you'll see why.

Best wishes,

Mac Oglesby





I assume there is a building or pole, or some such feature somewhere already. It doesn't meet your original request, but maybe the school would be interested in this type of dial:

http://home.iae.nl/users/ferdv/shadow1.htm

My understanding is that the ground doesn't have to be level, and can even be varying, which is a plus. Also, it is an interactive dial, and instructional.

Many thanks to Mac Oglesby for telling me about shadow planes. My own understanding of sundials improved a lot after I started thinking in terms of shadow planes as opposed to "rays" coming from the Sun. (I'm still new to this.)

Albert Franco


"Frans W. Maes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Douglas & all,

It doesn't obey the initial conditions, but maybe a play-object is allowed
in a playground. How about a horizontal bar, on which children may turn
somersaults etc.? It can double as a sundial: let the bar just tilt 2 deg (3
cm at 1.70 m length), North end upward. Hour lines are almost parallel, as
this is almost a polar dial.

Regards,
Frans Maes

----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Hunt"
To:
Sent: 18 January, 2004 7:54 PM
Subject: A 'gnomon-less' sundial for locations near the Equator ?


 >
 > Can any of our Mailing-List experts suggest some horizontal sundial design
 > suitable for locations almost on the Equator, (actually 2 Degrees North) ?
 >
 > We have been contacted by a school in Singapore, who would like to install
 > a large playground sundial - BUT ideally having nothing above ground-level
 > to cause any 'accidents', or increase the cost/complexity of their layout.
 > They want to avoid a 'gnomon' obstructing vehicles in the playground area.
 >
 > They had initially thought of using a traditional "analemmatic", but those
 > are not really suited to locations within the 'tropics' (because the Hour-
 > markers will interfere with the central Date-scale). We recommended using
 > a 'door-frame polar' design, as being the most popular for schools near to
 > the Equator (i.e., two upright supports with a near-horizontal North/South
 > cross-piece, the shadow of which tells time on Hour-lines painted on their
 > playground) - but they prefer an entire layout on the ground, if possible.
 >
 > I will be very grateful for any suggestions, as to whether there is a type
> of sundial which could be installed at a nea! r-Equator location - and which
 > does not need a 'gnomon' (apart from maybe a person!), above ground-level.
 >
 > Douglas Hunt.
 >
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