Frank,

Checking your reply to John Bercovitz, I see that you used the Fourier
series from the BSS Glossary. In my quick reading, I missed this (don't ask
how!). Hopefully by now, you will have received a copy of the scanned and
OCRed paper which was the first publication of this equation.

I recall that a few years ago, I posted a copy of Spencer's original paper
on the list, and it looks like it found its way to the BSS Glossary.

I wonder what Spencer would think if he knew that his research on
air-conditioning of buildings would be helping diallists 30 years later? I
am sure that he would be pretty pleased.

BTW: As in so many countries, the Australian government has progressively
gutted science and research organisations. The CSIRO Division of Building
Research was disbanded many years ago. Pity.

Cheers, John

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Declination approximation?


> Dear John
>
> > Is there an approximate formula for the declination of the
> > sun vs day number?
>
> This is a tantalising story which doesn't really have a happy
> ending!  Only gluttons for punishment should read any further...
>
> Your solution is a good starting point:
>
> > I just tried the obvious
> >
> >  23.44*SIN[(day number)*360degrees/365.2422]
>
> You have taken the obliquity of the ecliptic as 23.44 degrees
> which is close enough.  You implicitly start at the Vernal
> Equinox (day number = 0 gives declination = 0) and you have
> taken the length of the year as 365.2422 days.
>
> You can improve on this by looking at:
>
>    http://www.sundialsoc.org.uk/glossary/frameset.htm
>
> This is the truly wonderful Glossary of the British Sundial
> Society (it is edited by John Davies) and you will find under
> Equations (look for number 9) the following Fourier transform:
>
>    D =  0.006918  - 0.399912 cos w + 0.070257 sin w
>                   - 0.006758 cos 2w + 0.000907 sin 2w
>                   - 0.002697 cos 3w + 0.001480 sin 3w
>
> where D is the declination in radians.  The parameter w is also
> in radians and represents a proportion of the year scaled to the
> range 0 to 2pi.  Using your scaling, you could take w as:
>
>    w = (day number)*2pi/365.2422]
>
> Here, though, day number = 0 corresponds to somewhere around
> 1 January.  The maximum error is said to be 0.0006 radians
> (less than 3 arcminutes).
>
> If you want to do better than that, you can implement the
> appropriate algorithms described by Meeus and you will find
> yourself keying in over 500 constants.  It is very rewarding
> to get these right but it takes quite a while!
>
> The real difficulty is what you mean by `day number'.  If
> you are just interested in the fraction of the year from
> the Vernal Equinox then you need take in no more.
>
> If you want to relate `day number' to a date then you will
> be defeated by the Gregorian Calendar.  You can see the
> problem by asking the reverse question, `What is the day
> number corresponding to a given declination?'
>
> Even if you take a nice easy declination, like 0 degrees,
> you find the date varies by over two days over the 400-year
> Gregorian cycle.  On the Greenwich Meridian the instant of
> the Vernal Equinox varies from late afternoon on 21 March
> (e.g. 1903) to early afternoon on 19 March (e.g. 2096).
>
> If you are in a different time zone you may well be the
> other side of midnight so the date changes again.  Worse
> still, counting days from 1 January involves having to
> include 29 February one year in four which throws out
> the count by one day for the rest of the year.
>
> I said there wasn't a happy ending but if you want some
> light relief you can read a nice article that alludes to
> this kind of thing in the latest, March 2004, Issue of
> the British Sundial Society Bulletin.  I wrote it myself
> and it's about a sundial I did for the Queen a couple of
> years ago!
>
> Frank H. King
> Cambridge University
> England
>
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