So you wanna fight, huh? :-) If we're talking about astronomy that provides info useful to dialists:-
 
For Pocket PC:
 
An Ephemeris program from Jonathan Sachs. Has a nice compass feature: point the PC at the Sun (or Moon as appropriate) and it indicates True North. Produces a table of the Sun's position throughout the day. Freeware.
Link: http://home.comcast.net/~jonsachs/ You might like his Scientific Calculator too.
 
Nomad Electronics' "Pocket Stars": http://www.nomadelectronics.com/ a planetarium program. Rise, Set, Altitude and Azimuth (in real time). $19.99 but incorporates NASA's ephemeris for Sun, Moon and planets for dates in this century. (Back to 1700 if you have 60 Meg spare)
 
If you're real DOS fan you might try looking for Steven Moshier's AA, an ephemeris program for DOS. Another program that uses routines to get NASA-standard accuracy - just what the average dial constructor needs, right?
 
Cheers,
 
Richard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Thierry van Steenberghe
Sent: 10 May 2005 16:15
To: Robert Terwilliger
Cc: 'Richard Hollands'; 'John Carmichael'; 'Sundial List'
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site

Amazingly, nobody seems to have mentionned the excellent (shareware) program 'Planetarium' for Palm computers, by A. Hofer...
It is a complete Planetarium, as the name implies, and gives Rise & Set + Transit times, twilight times, and the position of the Sun and planets, even a detailed celestial map. It calculates solstices and many other things.
See http://www.aho.ch/pilotplanets
Fantastic!

A simpler program (freeware) for Palm is RiseSet, which gives Rise, Set, Transit, Altitude, Azimuth and Day Length.
It can be found, as well as othe nice programs, on the author's David W. Bray web site http://www.40-below.com/palm/
Highly recommended!
There is also info for the development of Palm programs: maybe the source of DC can be used to compile a Palm version?

Yet another program is Sol! (shareware)

Palm PDAs have the advantage that they use a very stable OS, very compact programs, and a lot of freeware and shareware is available.
Look for example at http://www.palmgear.com or www.palmsource.com among many other download sites (Tucows, etc.)

Cheers,

Thierry
50.5 N 4.3 E




Robert Terwilliger wrote:
Richard Hollands wrote:

  
Last comment in this thread!
    

I hope not. I have been following the thread, and I am planning to update
the NASS / Dialist Companion web pages to help people with handhelds to
install and use DC.

PocketDos sounds like it may be essential, and I suspect Richard is right -
the Clock Screen will try to access PC video hadware directly - and not find
it. 

Please post general comments to the list. Specific comments, and those about
specific handhelds can be sent directly to me.

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Thanks,

Bob

  
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Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 2:55 AM
To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


OK, not perfectly. The clock page doesn't work at all. I'm 
guessing it's trying to access the hardware directly.

Last comment in this thread!

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Sent: 09 May 2005 22:46
To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site



John,

Just to complete the story: I just downloaded Pocket DOS and 
the Dialists Companion and they both run perfectly. You have 
to install DC on your PC then copy the files across. The 
install program won't run under PocketDOS.
(DC runs under Pocket DOS not Windows CE)

My Pocket PC is an HP Ipaq 4700, an expensive beast but 
that's what unexpected bonuses are for. I'll play with the 
Dialists Companion now so talk to you later :-)

Richard

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Sent: 09 May 2005 22:18
To: John Carmichael; Sundial List
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site




John,

The Dialists Companion is a DOS program and, despite what the 
website says, isn't compatible with any version of Windows CE.

However, if you're so at home with DC you want it on your 
palm-top you can get PocketDOS from www.pocketdos.com which 
is a PC emulator which will run on most palm-top PCs. I've 
used the earlier version and it really is a very good 
emulator. Altogether costing pocket money really and you can 
trial it first anyway.

What I'd like is Helmut's 'Sonne' for Pocket PC ...

Richard

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Sent: 09 May 2005 16:06
To: Sundial List
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


Hello Richard:

It's good to know that at least one of you has had success 
using a sun program with a palm-held devise.  There is hope!

I don't know much about these minicomputers. Do you think all 
types hand-held devices will work? Could you recommend a 
brand and model number?

Ideally, it would be good to find one that works with Dialist 
Companion also.

John

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From: "Richard Hollands" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sundial List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:24 AM
Subject: RE: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


    
I've transferred the 'Ubisol' page to my pocket PC and it works OK. 
Palm devices don't generally allow pop-ups which the page uses for 
changing your co-ordinates but you can just type them in the form 
fields and hit Enter.
You do need to have _javascript_ enabled for it to work.

Richard

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 08 May 2005 17:37
To: anselmo
Cc: Sundial List
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


On my crummy cell phone that has limited internet capacity, 
      
I was not 
    
able to use either the BSS "Where's the sun" or the Spanish 
      
"Ubisol" 
    
website that Anselmo mentioned.

Has anyone had any success using these two websites on a palm-held 
computer?

How about Dialist Companion?

thanks,
John

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From: "anselmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chris Lusby Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: Handheld dialing software; BSS Web site


      
On Thu, 5 May 2005 18:55:09 +0100, Chris Lusby Taylor wrote
        
Hi All,
I am the BSS Webmaster and created that new page on the BSS Web 
site. From the home page, click on "Where is the sun?". It uses 
_javascript_ embedded in the page, and takes the time from your 
computer's clock, so you could make the page available offline if 
you wished. It should run in any current browser, I trust, but 
please let me know if you have problems.
          
Dear all,

"Where is the sun?" has got a (probably unnoticed) elder brother in

http://www.relojesdesol.org/UbiSolENG.html

It works also as an embedded _javascript_ and updates automatically.

I've tried to make the code simple enough to be easily 
        
hacked by any 
    
interested user (see file UbiSol.js).

Let's hope that the eldest brother, that is, "Dialist Companion"
soon goes down to the earthly kingdom of JS scripts.

Ah, and congratulations, Chris, and thanks: I've taken some ideas 
from it for future versions of UbiSol! :-))))

Anselmo
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