Warren,
I guess that you have to write the program in Java. That is as far as I konow the only possibility for being to run on a Mac and Windows and I guess also under Linux.
Thibaud Chabot

At 15:29 25-08-2006, Warren Thom wrote:
Hi Fer and all,
 
I have just read the latest issue of the Compendium, and I must agree with John, the Hollander dials are a very attractive invention.  The articles are clear and informative.  Thanks to all involved.
 
John had suggested writing a DeltaCad macro to design the mean-time conical dial.  While I like the idea,  may I suggest a greater project for dialists to consider.  May I suggest working together on a "Dialist Prototype Package" of software.  It should have the following criteria:
 
1.  As universal as possible for both natural language and computer use (Windows, Mac, and Linux)
2.  Encourage rapid code production.  I have looked at DeltaCad macros.  They are not "rapid" to me, but I have not written a program for years.
3.  Can apply to CAD
4.  Able to do math testing like apply the equations of the Hollander dials.
5.  Have good visualization.
6.  Have reusable code.
7.  ( more criteria to come -- or add your own.)
 
My nomination for the project is the cross platform Python computer language.  Before I go into detail, I would like to hear other ideas about such a project.
 
Take Care,
 
Warren Thom
 
----- Original Message -----
From: fer de vries
To: sundial
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: "Mean Time Cone Gnomon Dial".

John Carmichael wrote to the Sundial List:
 
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Hi Fer and Hendrik:
 
I know I speak for everyone at the NASS Conference that we were all very impressed with the Mean Time Cone Gnomon Dial that you helped Hendrik Hollander to develop.  Congratulations to Hendrik for winning the Sawyer Dialing Prize this year. What a surprise.  I knew of Hendrik for his previous work with etched glass and acrylic dials, but I don't think anybody else knew of him.   It caused a great deal of interest at the NASS Conference since none of us had ever heard about Hendrik or his new dial before. We loved the fact that it looks like a simple ordinary dial with straight hour lines, yet it tells Mean Time because it has a tilted cone gnomon. Fred kept saying that he wished that he had thought of it.  Now that's a compliment!!!  We are all anxious to read more about it in the next issue of The Compendium.
 
Afterwards, Roger Bailey and I discussed ..........
 
John Carmichael
.............
 
 
At first my help with this dial only was for some tests afterwards. The idea is by Hendrik after reading pubilcations about "Compressed Gnomonic Sundials" by Fred Sawyer.
 
Many of the readers of the list perhaps won't understand what is a "Mean Time Cone Gnomon Dial".
 
You may read some of it and see an example of the dial at our website.
Look for News and then use the link to the september article.
This article is already on the website.
More will be published in coming bulletins.
 
Best wishes, Fer.
 
 
 
Fer J. de Vries
 
De Zonnewijzerkring
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