What a hoot.  Thanks for putting those photos on the internet.  It works 
like a ring dial on steroids.  Very cool.

-Bill G.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "fer de vries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "J. Tallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sundial List" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: Non-terrestrial sundials


> Jim and others,
>
> I know about a sundial on board of a passengers ship.
> I posses a photo-copy of small booklet about the dial and its use.
>
> The ship is the MS Oranje, built in 1938/39.
> About the ship and her history have a look at:
> www.ssmaritime.com/oranje.htm
>
> The ship ended her life in 1979 as Angelina Laouro, when it sunk.
>
>
> On board of MS Oranje was a sundial.
> The priciple is based on the "universal ring dial" although it is
> constructed as a "cresent dial".
> The dial was set to the latitude, the cresent was set to the date.
> With knobs the dial could be placed level.
> The foot of the dial was on a compass with a scale of 360 degrees.
> Turn the dial until the shadow of the endpoint of the cresent falls on the
> central line of
> the hourscale.
> The dial then is north-south oriented and the time and azimut of the 
> ship's
> course could be read.
> The time's scale was for local suntime.
>
> I don't know if the instrument was placed on a cardanic support like is 
> seen
> in Mayall page 153, mentioned by Peter Mayer.
>
> The dial wasn't meant as an instrument for the sailors but for the
> passengers to "play" with and wonder about the relations of the course of
> the sun, of the ship and the time.
>
> The dial was designed by W.G. ten Houte de Lange, adjunct director of the
> Zeiss planetarium in The Hague, now not longer excisting.
>
> He also wrote the booklet about the dial in or around 1939.
>
> Two black and white photos from the booklet are temporaly placed at:
>
> http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl/tijdelijk/photos.htm
>
>
> Best wishes, Fer.
>
>
> Fer J. de Vries
>
> De Zonnewijzerkring
> http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl
>
> Molens
> http://www.collsemolen.dse.nl
>
> Eindhoven, Netherlands
> lat.  51:30 N      long.  5:30 E
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J. Tallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Sundial List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:16 PM
> Subject: Non-terrestrial sundials
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Has anyone ever seen a sundial specifically designed for use on a boat
>> or ship?
>>
>> I realize that there are obvious issues re: movement and variable
>> location, but I thought it might be an interesting question for the list
>> to consider from the historical perspective...
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jim Tallman
>> www.artisanindustrials.com
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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