I just had a thought.
Couldn't we tell if the black & white photo is reversed if we could see how the garden of the Nun Appleton looks today? If any of those trees that we see in the black and white photo are still alive, then we could tell if the photo is reversed. The left and right doors are identical, so if the photo is reversed, we can't tell by looking at the doors. But the garden is not quite symmetrical. The bushes on either side of the walkway are symmetrical, but the tress in the garden are not. Just a thought.. John p.s. Do they allow people to visit that vestibule area? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carmichael Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Nun Appleton Dial Mystery Hi All (esp. John Davis, Mike Cowhan & David Brown): I just noticed something odd about the very famous stained glass sundial that is known as "The Nun Appleton Dial". I don't know why I never saw this before. It slipped by right me. Take a look at this graphic of two photographs: http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/Stain ed_Glass_Sundial_6.jpg On the left is a close-up color photo of the dial. This photo, as with most of our SGS photos, presumably shows the dial as it would have looked from inside the building. The inscriptions and numerals all look corrected and were made to be read from the inside of the building. On the right is old black & white interior photo showing the dial as it was mounted in the transom above the door. But look at the dial. It is backwards! Why is this? I'm thinking that it was incorrectly mounted in the transom. It was mounted in reverse. But it just might be possible that it was mounted correctly and that the old black and white photo is reversed! I copied that photo from a captured freeze frame still shot from an article by Hans Behrendt called "Alte Englischen Fenstersonnenhren (II)" 1990. Could it be possible that the printers that Hans used might have accidentally reversed the photograph? Which leads me to ask if any of you ever saw this dial in its original location above the door at Nun Appleton Hall, York, England. If we could only find another photograph or testimony from somebody who saw it. It no longer is there and I don't know when it was removed. It now resides in lightbox for display at entrance to York Art Gallery. Can anybody help me solve this mystery? Thx John p.s. Here is the information we have on this dial: The Nun Appleton Dial Maker: Henry Gyles (1645-1709) Date: 1670 Original Location: Nun Appleton Hall, York, England. Present Location: in lightbox for display at entrance to York Art Gallery. Orientation: south Size: unknown (large) Adornment: Cupid holds small sundial. Small landscapes with The Four Seasons. House rebuilt by Sir William Milner whose arms are on a corresponding pane of glass. Mottos: Qui non est Hodie (Who is not today). Lines from Ovid: Poma dat Autumnus, Formosa est messibus Aestas, Ver praebet fores, Igne levatur hiems. (Autumn gives fruits, Summer fair with corn appears, Spring bestows flowers, Winter fire cheers). Condition: excellent Comment: From a print by Titian. In dark corner of gallery and back lit with unmoving electric light. Article by Christopher Daniel (5 MB): (Apr <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/references_files/19 88_April_SGS_in_England_and_Wales.pdf> 1988) Stained Glass Sundials in England and Wales. "Clocks" 10, 30-37 Article by Christopher Daniel (2 MB): (1987) <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/references_files/19 87_Feb_Shedding_a_Glorious_light.pdf> Shedding a Glorious Light. "Country Life" 181, 72-75 Original Photos: Here <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/Stai ned_Glass_Sundial_6oa.jpg> , Here <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/Stai ned_Glass_Sundial_6ob.jpg> , Here <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/Stai ned_Glass_Sundial_6od.jpg> Left Photo: shows dial mounted on lightbox at the gallery. Right Photo: shows dial above entrance door at its original location. This poor quality photo and some of this information are copied from an article by Hans Behrendt called "Alte Englischen Fenstersonnenhren (II)" 1990. Drawing by Gatty, "The Book of Sun-Dials": Here <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/Stai ned_Glass_Sundial_6_Gatty_Drawing.JPG> Website: York Art Gallery <http://www.yorkartgallery.org.uk/> John L. Carmichael Sundial Sculptures 925 E. 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