Hi all, This dial is close to where I live. It's only about 35 KM from here. Next week I'll take the camera and go and have a look and see what it's all about. I'll see what I can find out about it.
Roderick Wall. ----- Original Message ----- From: fer de vries To: John Carmichael ; [email protected] ; sundial Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 4:45 AM Subject: Re: Another Human Gnomon Horizontal? John, Here some more links about the dial in Melbourne. Still not details of the scale with markers. The last link gives a page with nearly down an oveview. Click for larege photo. Best wishes, Fer. http://www.infolink.com.au/n/Melbourne-s-newest-piazza-wins-an-MBA-award-n763733 http://mams.rmit.edu.au/3xdi011sak221.pdf http://www.italianporphyry.com/argyle.html http://www.porphyry.com.au/ http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/info.cfm?top=228&pg=715&st=646 http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/opm/bc/CTEE/meetings/FaCP_513_200503010530.pdf http://www.rmit.com.au/browse;ID=6c4qyn75rdzc http://everywherethereandhere.blogspot.com/2009/04/piazza-italia.html http://www.porfido.it/documenti/rassegna%20stampa/Urbandecoration.pdf http://www.visualarts.net.au/gallery/images/2008/11/piazzaitaliaargylesquare http://everywherethereandhere.blogspot.com/2009_04_01_archive.html Porphyry Stone Andrea Tomaselli Address: 1890 Warburton Hwy, Launching Place, Victoria 3139 Phone: +61 3 5964 7778 Fax: +61 3 5964 7778 Email: [email protected] Web: www.porphyry.com.au Fer J. de Vries De Zonnewijzerkring http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl Molens http://www.collsemolen.dse.nl Eindhoven, Netherlands lat. 51:30 N long. 5:30 E ----- Original Message ----- From: John Carmichael To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: RE: Another Human Gnomon Horizontal? Hi Patrick: Those are all good links that you found, even if they only talk about the dial artwork. But I think you are right. If we want to find out more about the horizontal porphyry dial in Argyle Square, we will need to contact Andrea Tomaselli. I do not have her email address- do you? I do know another dialist in Melborne- Dr. Margaret Folkard ([email protected]) We could try writing to her. I’d also like to find out more about that new mosaic/painted wall dial in Trento Italy! Thanks for those links. John From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 1:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Another Human Gnomon Horizontal? Hi John, I have been trying to find out the real details of this dial (installed 2006) but not with much success. It is at: 37 48 08.78S, 144 57 57.19E and the square is referred to as Carlton's "Piazza Italia" since it seems two Australians went to Italy to study the art of working in this sort of stone and came back and built the square. Sadly Google Earth does not help much though it shows the layout OK. There are web sites where the dial is mentioned as properly designed - viz: “The design of the solar clock is the work of Andrea Tomaselli’s Italian Porphyry group and continues their fascination with time pieces and public space. In order to make the 45 m2 solar clock (or sundial) keep the correct time, the stonemasonry had to be exact and so GPS equipment was used to ensure the stone laying was totally precise. All this added an extra layer of complexity and challenge to the job. See http://www.infolink.com.au/n/Melbourne-s-newest-piazza-wins-an-MBA-award-n763733 Afterwards the designers gave a master class in the use of porphyry - you might have been interested in that, see http://mams.rmit.edu.au/3xdi011sak221.pdf and I see that the same group, as part of a cultural exchange undertook to draw a new mural and sundial in Trento Italy. http://www.artshub.com.au/au/news-article/views/visual-arts/a-new-mural-in-the-painted-city-of-trento-italy-68366 Sadly though all these articles concentrate on the artistic aspect and not the gnomonic one. Maybe we need to make direct contact with the designers? Regards Patrick -----Original Message----- From: John Carmichael <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2009 7:45 pm Subject: Another Human Gnomon Horizontal? I found this photo of a beautiful large spiral-shaped sundial that looks like it might be another rare human gnomon horizontal dial. It’s located at Argyle Square in the Melbourne suburb of Carlton, Victoria, Australia. See the rectangle with little boxes in it on the meridian line? I think these little boxes are human height markers. To use the sundial, one stands on the box that corresponds to his height. But it is difficult to see what the text is inside these little boxes because the photo is not very large. http://www.flickr.com/photos/adonline/2895001478 ---------------------------------------------------https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.31/2457 - Release Date: 10/24/09 14:31:00
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