Dear John,

I may have stated a "fact" about China being one very large time  
zone.  Day to day reality is obviously different.

Thanks for that, Doug

On Apr 20, 2010, at 14:46, John Goodman wrote:

>> In China there are 1.2bn people spread over
>> 60 degrees of longitude all living by the
>> same clock time.
>>
>> Compared with their fellows in the easternmost
>> 15 degrees, the others are effectively living
>> with single, double and quadruple summer time.
>
> This is technically true, but in practice, not an ideal test.
>
> First of all, the vast majority of people in China live in a  
> longitude band of less than 30 degrees, running from Kunming in the  
> west to Harbin in the East. Time is standardized around Beijing,  
> which is close to the center of that range.
>
> I lived in Kunming for two years and I can't say that it was a  
> problem living on Beijing time. However, when I traveled further  
> west, to the frontier province of Xinjiang, Beijing time was  
> noticeably out of sync with my expectations of when the sun "should"  
> be shining.
>
> In Xinjiang, Beijing time is used for national schedules, such as  
> train timetables and government office hours. For everything else,  
> people use "local time," which is an hour earlier than Beijing time.  
> People in Xinjiang are in the habit of ignoring many government  
> dictates so keeping their own time is not a big challenge.
>
> The other major western province in China is Tibet. I haven't been  
> to Tibet but I have no trouble imagining that, like Xinjiang, people  
> ignore a lot of what the government mandates. Neither province is  
> ethnically or historically part of the Chinese empire and traditions  
> have more authority than law.
>
> Even in Kunming, a much more culturally Chinese area, people liked  
> to quote the time-honored maxim that "the mountains are tall and the  
> emperor is far away." Standardized time doesn't count for much when  
> habits are involved.
>
> Much of China is still rural. It will be a long time before  
> timepieces rule.
>
> John
>
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