Just amazing! I propose to call it: a "Sun Toyal" Jos Kint ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:00 PM Subject: sundial Digest, Vol 52, Issue 32
> Send sundial mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of sundial digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Is this a sundial? (Aimo Niemi) > 2. The first modern Ottoman Sundials (Gianni Ferrari) > 3. Aberdour Sundials (Dennis Cowan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:12:05 +0300 > From: Aimo Niemi <[email protected]> > Subject: Is this a sundial? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Shadow Watchers, > Want to see a working sundial without a shadow? If so, visit > http://pc-calculator.110mb.com/tracker/solartracker.html > Or how do you feel? Maybe it is'nt a sundial at all, maybe it is just a > toy. > > Regards, > Aimo Niemi. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/private/sundial/attachments/20100428/d96ec208/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:17:26 +0200 > From: Gianni Ferrari <[email protected]> > Subject: The first modern Ottoman Sundials > To: LISTA INGLESE <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > >>From years I am interested in the Islamic and Ottoman sundials and on this > argument some years ago I have written a little book (in Italian, never > published, but that many have read) and also recently some articles > (always > in Italian) . > >>From some years I have begun to annoy some friends trying to convince them > to build one of these dials and today I can inform that some have been > finished: > > - 3 in Aiello del Friuli (Norther Italy) (completed some months > ago) > > - one installed few days ago in Bremen (Germany) by the friend > Reinhold Kriegler > > - another, very great, is almost completed in Reggio Emilia > (Italy) on the fa?ade of a building used as a mosque, by the Italian > dialist > Renzo Righi. > > > > These are the first vertical declining sundials of the Ottoman type, with > only the lines of the Islamic prayers, that have been built in the last > 100-150 years in Europe and, in my knowledge, also in the whole world. The > original drawings are, for better or for worse, done by me J. > > > > All you already know the horizontal dial of this type built by Roger > Bailey > in St Louis-Missouri (very beautiful!!) > > > > The dials that are in Aiello will officially be inaugurated during the > "Party of the Sundials" next 30 May . They have been drawn by the Italian > dialist Renato Devetak. > > > > The clock by Reinhold Kriegler is the first one in Europe, beyond the > Alps, > and the only one in a place with a high Latitude ( about53?): you can see > it, > together with a long explanation (in German and partly in English), in his > site > > http://www.ta-dip.de/209,0,ottomanische-sonnenuhr,index,0.html > > > > The Roger Bailey sundial is presented in > http://www.walkingshadow.info/Ottoman-Dial.jpg > > > > Some images of the sundials in Aiello are in > > http://picasaweb.google.com/gfmerid/OttomanSundials#<http://picasaweb.google.com/gfmerid/OttomanSundials> > > > > ------------------ > > For those that don?t know the Islamic and Ottomans sundials, I remind that > generally these instruments don't have the hour lines but almost > exclusively > some lines to find the instants in which the Islamic prayers have to > begin. > > > > In the simplest dials there are only the lines concerning the two > diurnal > prayers (noon and afternoon) , in those more complex we find also the > lines > relative to the sunset prayer and to the two night prayers (of the > beginning and of the end of the night). > > Often there is also a line that can be useful to determine the direction > of > Mecca (qibla). > > Almost always two or more gnomons are present. > > > > To note that these "sundials" give us instants that are not achievable > with the common mechanical clocks and for this reason they were built in > the > great cities of Turkey till the first years of the XIX century (many can > be > seen also today on the walls of the mosques in Istanbul). > > Today we can find electronic watches (Casio) that give these instants in > each day . Moreover in all the newspapers in Arabic language, or read by > the > Muslims in the world, these data are daily published. > > A regard > > Gianni Ferrari > > > -- > Mail to : [email protected] > Lat. 44;38,18.5N > Long. 10;56,05.3E > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/private/sundial/attachments/20100428/f67c6b20/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:01:04 +0100 > From: "Dennis Cowan" <[email protected]> > Subject: Aberdour Sundials > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <9878bdaa4d904199a3b13332db3ea...@home> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > See my website www.sundialsofscotland.co.uk for photos of the three > sundials > at Aberdour Castle. Go to the "Sundial Register" page and choose the > "Register with one sundial per page" option. This brings up a .pdf file. > Enter Aberdour into the find option. Then scroll down to see the details > including photos of the three sundials. > > Dennis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:00 AM > Subject: sundial Digest, Vol 52, Issue 31 > > >> Send sundial mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of sundial digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Earth Picture of the Day 26th. April 2010 (John Foad) >> 2. FW: Earth Picture of the Day 26th. April 2010 (Andrew Pettit) >> 3. Re: Earth Picture of the Day 26th. April 2010 (John Foad) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:20:51 +0100 >> From: "John Foad" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Earth Picture of the Day 26th. April 2010 >> To: "Richard Mallett" <[email protected]>, "Sundial Mailing >> List" <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <e98af4446fbf46ddbc9b3906f37c7...@toshiba> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hi Richard, >> Thanks for pointing this out. It is a nice dial - No 900 in the BSS >> Register. In fact the castle was built over the period 1606-1648 by >> William, Earl of Morton. The initials, WM and ACM, are presumably those >> of >> William and his wife. The dial was said to bear the date of 1635, but it >> is >> no longer legible. >> Regards, >> John >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Richard Mallett" <[email protected]> >> To: "Sundial Mailing List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:24 PM >> Subject: Earth Picture of the Day 26th. April 2010 >> >> >>> Today's Earth Picture of the Day at http://epod.usra.edu/ is of a >>> sundial at Aberdour Castle at Fife in Scotland that (according to the >>> contributor Jeanette Stafford) is over 300 years old. If it is no >>> longer the 26th. when you read this, you will have to click on Previous >>> :-) >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Richard Mallett >>> Eaton Bray, Dunstable >>> South Beds. UK >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:00:43 +0100 >> From: "Andrew Pettit" <[email protected]> >> Subject: FW: Earth Picture of the Day 26th. April 2010 >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <07f06c4fc3c14db5a6067b4c4c862...@andrew3cc5feb3> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> >> >> Andrew Pettit >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> e-mail: [email protected] >> >> Postman Pat: 3, Lucastes Road, HAYWARDS HEATH, West Sussex, RH16 1JJ >> ENGLAND >> >> Tel. UK: +44 (0)1444 453111 >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andrew Pettit [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: 27 April 2010 09:10 >> To: 'Richard Mallett'; '[email protected]' >> Subject: RE: Earth Picture of the Day 26th. April 2010 >> >> Richard >> >> Aberdour a is relatively small place yet this is not the only dial to see >> ~ >> there is also a polyhedron dial! >> >> As I recall it is also in the grounds of the castle. >> >> Perhaps others can give further information. >> >> Regards >> >> Andrew Pettit ~ who lives well south of you in England (leave alone the >> Scottish border). >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On >> Behalf Of Richard Mallett >> Sent: 26 April 2010 22:24 >> To: Sundial Mailing List >> Subject: Earth Picture of the Day 26th. April 2010 >> >> Today's Earth Picture of the Day at http://epod.usra.edu/ is of a sundial >> at >> Aberdour Castle at Fife in Scotland that (according to the contributor >> Jeanette Stafford) is over 300 years old. If it is no longer the 26th. >> when >> you read this, you will have to click on Previous :-) >> >> -- >> -- >> Richard Mallett >> Eaton Bray, Dunstable >> South Beds. UK >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:41:23 +0100 >> From: "John Foad" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Earth Picture of the Day 26th. April 2010 >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <6e222ce8fd9647ee8c751665ce139...@toshiba> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hi Andrew, >> >> You are quite right, and any visitor to the area might like to know that >> Aberdour has, in addition to the vertical dial in 'Earth picture of the >> Day', at least two others, one being, the fine multiple that you mention. >> That one has a 4-dial cube (NSEW), with 4 reclining dials above, all with >> their gnomons; and is topped with a sphere dial. The third is a >> horizontal >> on an elaborately carved stone plinth set on 4 stone balls. I have >> little >> information on this one, and would much appreciate close-up photo, and >> more >> details, from any visitor. >> >> Anyone thinking of a holiday in Scotland has of course a wealth of good >> dials to enjoy, many being complex multiples. >> >> Regards, >> >> John >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andrew Pettit" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:00 PM >> Subject: FW: Earth Picture of the Day 26th. April 2010 >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Andrew Pettit >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> e-mail: [email protected] >>> >>> Postman Pat: 3, Lucastes Road, HAYWARDS HEATH, West Sussex, RH16 1JJ >>> ENGLAND >>> >>> Tel. UK: +44 (0)1444 453111 >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Andrew Pettit [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: 27 April 2010 09:10 >>> To: 'Richard Mallett'; '[email protected]' >>> Subject: RE: Earth Picture of the Day 26th. April 2010 >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> Aberdour a is relatively small place yet this is not the only dial to >>> see >>> ~ >>> there is also a polyhedron dial! >>> >>> As I recall it is also in the grounds of the castle. >>> >>> Perhaps others can give further information. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Andrew Pettit ~ who lives well south of you in England (leave alone the >>> Scottish border). >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Richard Mallett >>> Sent: 26 April 2010 22:24 >>> To: Sundial Mailing List >>> Subject: Earth Picture of the Day 26th. April 2010 >>> >>> Today's Earth Picture of the Day at http://epod.usra.edu/ is of a >>> sundial >>> at >>> Aberdour Castle at Fife in Scotland that (according to the contributor >>> Jeanette Stafford) is over 300 years old. If it is no longer the 26th. >>> when >>> you read this, you will have to click on Previous :-) >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Richard Mallett >>> Eaton Bray, Dunstable >>> South Beds. 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