Hello Donald,

I suggested you learn by doing it yourself. Sometimes you learn from your 
mistakes. I made a mistake saying the sine changed to cosine in the southern 
hemisphere. I realized this error soon after clicking "send" button. For the 
southern hemisphere, the sign changes + to- but the sine does not change to 
cosine. The correct equation is Tan HA = Tan T x Sin Lat. 

I had in my mind, the concept of horizontal equivalence. For every vertical 
sundial in the northern hemisphere there is an equivalent horizontal sundial in 
the southern hemisphere. This is a great concept but not applicable here.

Regards, Roger

From: Roger Bailey 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 5:59 PM
To: Donald Christensen ; [email protected] 
Subject: Re: part 2 of longitude correction


Hello Donald,

Three degrees of longitude is 12 minutes of time, 4 minutes per degree, 60 
minutes (1 hour) per 15°, 24 hours per 360°. Your longitude is 153 East. You 
see the sun 12 minutes before the the time zone meridian. Solar noon, when the 
sun is above your longitude, is 11:48 zone time, on average. 

To calculate the time lines correctly you have to correct the time angle for 
each hour line. For solar noon, 11:48, T = 0. For 12:00 Z,  T = 3° For 1:00 Z, 
T = 18° etc as you add 15° time angle for each hour. This is the time angle 
that you put in the equation for hour angle (HA) to draw the lines.

Tan HA = Tan T x Cos Lat. for the southern hemisphere. In the north, it is Sin 
Lat. If you don't like the trig functions, use one of the standard design 
packages like Shadows, Zon, Sonne etc. They are simple to use. This is why John 
C. sent you a drawing. Designing the dial was quicker than explaining the 
logic. But you only learn by doing it yourself.

Regards, 
Roger Bailey
Walking Shadow Designs
www.walkingshadow.info 


From: Donald Christensen 
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 2:52 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: part 2 of longitude correction


I'm laying out lines for a new dial

I may not have been clear. I don't intend to rotate the gnomen. The dial will 
still point true north

By labeling 12:12 as noon and 13:12 as 13:00, I am rotating the hour marks. My 
question is,

Is it by an even 3 deg? 

-- 
Cheers
Donald
0423 102 090


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