Hello Sasch, Take a look at this adress:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaocheng_Astronomical_Observatory Perhaps this is the Tower you're looking for? By the way, there's a very useful conversion-table for Pinyin/Wade-Giles when looking for Chinese transcriptions: http://library.ust.hk/guides/opac/conversion-tables.html Best Regards, Karin ten Kleij. ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, July 20, 2011 12:00:20 PM Subject: sundial Digest, Vol 67, Issue 18 Send sundial mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of sundial digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Paper by Sara Schechner in Polish (Dariusz Oczki) 2. Re: light poem (John Goodman) 3. A medal - Przypkowski Museum in J?drzej?w (Dariusz Oczki) 4. RE: Most Valuable Sundial? (sasch stephens) 5. www.sundials.org question (Carolyne Evans) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:53:33 +0200 From: Dariusz Oczki <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Paper by Sara Schechner in Polish Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sara Schechner has kindly agreed for me to translate her paper THE MATERIAL CULTURE OF ASTRONOMY IN DAILY LIFE: SUNDIALS, SCIENCE, AND SOCIAL CHANGE into Polish. As most of you know the article is quite long so I decided to divide it into 2-3 part. The first one is ready so if anyone wishes to see it, please click the link below: http://gnomonika.pl/news.php?id=54 -- Best regards Darek Oczki 52N 21E Warsaw, Poland GNOMONIKA.pl Sundials in Poland http://gnomonika.pl ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:23:13 -0400 From: John Goodman <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: light poem Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, at 8:54 AM, Mac Oglesby wrote: > Also, I don't remember seeing any hint about the installation's location. According to this YouTube post - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvWh2xBbwrE - the pavilion is located at the Art Center College of Design in? Pasadena, CA See also, page 7 of this PDF - http://www.artcenter.edu/accd/files/MDP.pdf and this thesis webpage - http://people.artcenter.edu/~jsong5/portfolio/thesis.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:36:42 +0200 From: Dariusz Oczki <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: A medal - Przypkowski Museum in J?drzej?w Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The Przypkowski Museum in J?drzej?w, Poland has issued a medal showing a horizontal sundial with a cannon. It is a part of a series of collector medals showing interesting places in Poland. They are made of iron and coloured gold (I haven't seen it yet so cannot tell anything about the quality). I believe some of you might be interested in having a piece for their own collections. The thing is they don't sell them in internet - one can only buy them at a place shown on a medal (sold from a special machine). I am going to contact the Museum to learn if they could send me a few by post. As far as I know the medal costs 7 z? which is a little less then 2 Euro. Here you can see the medal (second row on the left): http://www.zlotapolska.pl/kolekcja,10.html -- Best regards Darek Oczki 52N 21E Warsaw, Poland GNOMONIKA.pl Sundials in Poland http://gnomonika.pl ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 01:13:34 -0700 From: sasch stephens <[email protected]> To: roger bailey <[email protected]>, sundial list <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Most Valuable Sundial? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hey guys, regarding Chinese sun instruments, I was just looking through the catalogue from the exhibition I organized in 1985 in Beitigheim, Germany called 'Zeit und Sonne'(Time and the Sun). Included was a picture and reference to a 50 foot tower in China built in 1279. There was an opening at the top which allowed light through to shine onto a bench which extended 120 feet out from it, I assume to measure the noon hour angle, hence solstices and equinoxes. It's listed as the Tower of Tsou Kung in Kao-tseng, China. The spelling might be a bit off since it's from a German translation. I tried to find reference to it on the internet, but on short notice wasn't able to. Sasch Stephens From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: Most Valuable Sundial? Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 22:08:36 -0700 Hi Jack, I had similar concerns. Hw can you see a shadow on transparent glass? Does it project to the surface? There are two equatorial discs in the Imperial palace in Beijing. I saw one in '92 and have seen photos of the other one. The Chinese were intrigued by western mechanical clocks but other than the instruments at the old observatory set up by Jesuits in the 16th century, there are not many sundials in China and the far east. Time was not of the essence long ago and far away. I hope someone can prove me wrong. Regards, Roger ps. I was interested to see they had armillary spheres in China many centuries before the Jesuits arrived. Perhaps the Silk Road went both ways. From: Jack Aubert Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:48 AM To: 'Sundial List' Subject: RE: Most Valuable Sundial? Value, schmalue. But it appears to be an interesting object, particularly if it really is an accurate replica of something from the 17th century. Are there more photos of it and an explanation of how it works? At first glance it looks like a skaphe dial made to be ?transparent? by use of a wire grid. How is it read? By staring upward? It would be hard to make out the shadow. Or do shadows project down onto the ground? I have not seen very much about sundials from the Far East, if it is still OK to call it that. The only one I can remember offhand is an equatorial dial at the Imperial Palace in Beijing and I don?t know how old that it is. Jack From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Roger Bailey Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 11:47 PM To: Sundial List Subject: Most Valuable Sundial? I happened to come across this obscure link to the Guinness Book of Records for the "most valuable sundial". http://community.guinnessworldrecords.com/_Most-valuable-sundial/blog/1458785/7691.html Perhaps, but define value. Is it cost? tons of bronze and gold plating, man hour of construction? I think not. This sundial is a replica. Perhaps the original was much more valuable, historically, culturally, scientifically. Value is not the cost to reproduce. I have designed a sundial to reproduce at a different location the famous sundial designed by Ibn Al Shatir in Damascus in 1371, a complex sundial, the first sundial with a polar gnomon. Mine is a fine sundial but the original is valuable. Are there other nominations for the "most valuable sundial". Regards, Roger Bailey "Life's but a Walking Shadow....." --------------------------------------------------- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --------------------------------------------------- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/private/sundial/attachments/20110720/680c5522/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: 11 Jul 2011 08:52:04 -0700 From: "Carolyne Evans" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: www.sundials.org question Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, I'd like to propose a 3-way link swap with your website http://www.sundials.org, where you receive 2 links in exchange for one of yours. 3-way linking is a very effective link building strategy. 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