Dear all,
finally, I found the source of that sundial: It is indeed a kind of replica, mass produced, probably from india in the late 19th century. Besides: The wood turned out to be an old ships-plank which has been conserved by some chemicals. The plate is indeed an modeled alloy with a mixture that was common in the medieval, obviously to make it look more real But still, for people, like me, unlettered in antiques, it appears to be a good fake J The key was an advertisement, made by someone on ebay, with a dial just like mine with exactly the same plate but, different wood. http://www.ebay.de/itm/seltenes-Museumsstuck-sehr-alte-Sonnenuhr-/1406026968 31?pt=Wissenschaftliche_Geräte_1 <http://www.ebay.de/itm/seltenes-Museumsstuck-sehr-alte-Sonnenuhr-/140602696 831?pt=Wissenschaftliche_Geräte_1&hash=item20bc92e47f> &hash=item20bc92e47f Thanks to all dialist for commenting and helping me on my quest! I will keep this family heirloom in my vitrine, even if its worthless in common sense, it is still a nice decoration and reminder on my Gran-Granfather Jan Botor From: John Carmichael [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 4:56 PM To: 'Sundial List' Cc: [email protected] Subject: FW: sundial /Jacopo de'Benci Hi Jan- Im forwarding your letter and my comments to the Sundial List. Perhaps the sundial experts in our group can help you more than I can! ________________________________________________ _______________________________ Hello Dialists: I received this letter inquiring about an old European sundial. Im not an expert on these things, so Im forwarding the letter to you guys. Ive never heard of the maker- Jacopo de Benci whose name is inscribed on the dial. Looking at the enlarged photo of it at http://www.mediadesign.me/pollaiuolo/images/sonnenuhr-jacopo-de-benci-4.jpg you can see it has a perpendicular rod gnomon, implying that at first glance it is a nodus-based design. But the location of the rod seems to be incorrectly located at the convergence of the hour lines. Im thinking that this dial was not designed to have a perpendicular gnomon. It should have an angled polar axis gnomon (an angled rod or a triangular sheet). Perhaps the rod was added to the original attachment hole after the original polar axis gnomon fell off at an earlier date. Does my analysis seem correct? Please copy your replies to Jan K. Botor at [email protected] Thx John C. From: info-mediadesign [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: sundial /Jacopo de'Benci Dear Mr Carmichael. Mrs. Monika Leonhardt, M.A. (Uhrenmuseum Beyer Zürich) kindly provided me with your contact details. I am currently trying to investigate into the origin of this sundial and I kindly ask you for your opinion as an expert about this piece of applied art and your suggestion if it could possibly be authentic. My personal opinion is that it is a copy of something made in the 19th Century but I can not locate anything similar whether in books nor in the whole internet. I put the details that I know, a summary of suggestions I received 3rd hand and high-resolution pictures at the following link: http://www.mediadesign.me/pollaiuolo/index.html It is my intention to give it to an department for dendrochronical and spectroscopic analysis, as I got various information that differs widely regarding the possible age and origin. It is starting with suggestions, placing it around the early 19th century and goes as far as it was possibly an early work by Pollaiuolo at the goldsmith Ghiberti where Jacopo de Benci was apprentice for Metalwork. That is well a wide range for speculations so, the coming analysis will place the object in a probable timeframe, I hope . I want to thank you in advance for your effort and It would be really nice to hear your opinion and if a scientific analysis would be advisable. If it is of interest, as the photographs are may not sufficient I would be glad to provide you with the original instrument for further research. With kind regards, Jan K. Botor <http://de.amberwork.com/> logo Hauptstr.40 25704 Meldorf T 0178-7732125 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <http://de.amberwork.com/> www.mediadesign.me
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