That's what always amazes me about this list: so many sharp people!  Perhaps a 
trip to a clock shop will reveal 0,3 mm clock spring for large clocks.  I know 
I've seen it.  

Best,
John B

 

 


From: Douglas Bateman <[email protected]>
To: sundial <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jul 8, 2012 2:16 am


Mention has been made of using a solenoid, and I believe that this is not the 
sort of thing Jackie will have in her 'silver' workshop.


Let us not forget that the traditional method of magnetising something is to 
stroke it with another magnet, as was done BF (Before Faraday) with a 
lodestone. Nowadays we have access to very strong magnets to do this job.


Not quite good enough for making a compass, but is it normal domestic 
experience that knives and scissors will become magnetised by the earth's 
magnetic field and will mysteriously pick up paper clips and pins. Whole ships 
become magnetic too, but that is yet another story!


In fact the opposite requirement  is essential for a watchmakers workshop - 
that of a de-magnetising tool.


I have made a compass for teaching purposes using hard spring steel sheet 
guillotined to size, a brass insert and steel sewing needle for the pivot, but 
its large size will hardly suit Jackie.


Regards, Doug






On 8 Jul 2012, at 09:34, JOHN DAVIS wrote:




Hi John B,
 
Your suggestion of using a piece from the mainspring of a clock for a compass 
needle is quite a good one - I have done this. It needs to be tempered by 
heating and then allowed to cool slowly first. However, the disadvantage is 
that the material tends to be rather thinner than is ideal (0.3 to 0.5 mm seems 
to be normal) and so there is less 'magnetic moment' when the needle is in 
place. This makes it more sensitive to the 'stiction' of the pivot.
 
Regards,
 
John D
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Dr J Davis
Flowton Dials



Subject: Re: making a compass
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, 8 July, 2012, 0:40


John's ideas are all right on.  John mentioned a piece of hard steel.  I wonder 
if a piece of clockspring would have the right properties.  You can take a 
clockspring out of the drive drum of a junk windup clock, and at least the 
outer coils can be straightened out flat.  I've seen magnetizing coils.  They 
are air-core solenoids (helical coils) of heavy gauge wire and they are 
energized by capacitive discharge using capacitors such as are found in photo 
flashes (strobes)

Best,
John Bercovitz










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