Seeing a movement of the shadow is also dependent on the surface on which you see the shadow. If this surface is very even colored/structured it will be more difficult to see a movement then when the surface has such a structure (like fine grain) that it is easy easier to see the movement..
Thibaud

At 10:40 7-8-2013, JOHN DAVIS wrote:
Hi Kevin (and Peter R et al),

I saw your SML post and will watch with interest what responses it gets.

One point, though: the value of 1.27 mm/sec as the lower limit of perception of movement is impossibly precise! I suggest that you would get +/-50% variation between different observers. Also, it will depend heavily on the situation: watching a laser spot on a piece of graph paper will give a value orders of magnitude different to following a distant aircraft on a clear blue sky. What really matters is the rate of angular change and a stationary reference point.

Regards,

John
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Dr J Davis
Flowton Dials


From: Kevin Nute <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; Peter Ransom <[email protected]>; JOHN DAVIS <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, 6 August 2013, 21:38
Subject: Visibly Moving Gnomon Shadows


The movement of the gnomon shadow at the famous Samrat Yantra equitorial sundial in Jaipur is reputed to be clearly visible to someone standing near the projection surface. I've read it moves as fast as 1 mm/s, though obviously not all the time. At a given latitude, say 40ยบ N, can anyone suggest a simple formula for estimating how far a projection surface would need to be from a vertical or horizontal gnomon for the shadow to move at 1.27 mm/s (the practical lower threshold of perceptible movement) I wonder? Or in other words, what's the smallest sundial you could build to see real-time movement of the gnomon shadow with the naked eye?


Kevin Nute
Professor of Architecture
University of Oregon
School of Architecture and Allied Arts
Eugene, OR 97403
USA
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