Roderick
 
Valentin Hristov has a great program to make sundials out of upright glass 
cylinders.  I have made several using graph paper inside the glass tube and 
etched the glass surface using my laser.  They all look beautiful and the 
program is easy to use.
 
He has invented a new program which converted a shepherds dial to a flat plate. 
 I am amazed how simple it is and how well it works.  Valentin is a great 
contact and extremely knowledgeable about his sundial variations.  I recommend 
him very  highly.

Art Krenzel


 

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> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 01:22:34 +0200
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>    1. Re: a unique sundial on a cylindrical column of opal glass
>       (rodwall1...@gmail.com)
>    2. RE: a unique sundial on a cylindrical column of opal glass
>       (John Carmichael)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:10:02 +0000
> From: <rodwall1...@gmail.com>
> To: Sundial Group <sundial@uni-koeln.de>,
>       "=?utf-8?Q?h.sondereg...@utanet.at?=" <h.sondereg...@utanet.at>
> Subject: Re: a unique sundial on a cylindrical column of opal glass
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> Hi Helmut,
> 
> 
> Ok about Willy?s sundial. I need to install SONNE onto my new Laptop compute 
> and see what it can do, thanks. I did have SONNE on my old computer. Willy?s 
> sundial is interesting, maybe make one from a drinking glass and paint the 
> hour lines using hobby glass paint.
> 
> 
> Regard,
> 
> 
> Roderick Wall.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Helmut Sonderegger (Tele2)
> Sent: ?Tuesday?, ?October? ?15?, ?2013 ?12?:?17? ?AM
> To: sundial@uni-koeln.de
> 
> Hi Roderick,
> 
> I like Willys new sundial too.  It looks beautifully.
> 
> I included this sundial construction a longer time ago in my software SONNE 
> and discussed different cylinder sundials in Compendium vol 16 nr. 4 (Dec 
> 2009). In my freeware Sonne.exe you can construct the sundial for the outside 
> of a cylinder with fixed orientation and moveable horizontal gnomon (see 
> image below). Now Willy has positioned the Gnomon  in the central axis of the 
> cylinder and so the gnomon length is equal the radius and nee not be turned 
> around. The construction stays the same but the scale is positioned on the 
> Northern part of the vertical cylinder instead of South.
> 
> By the way: Woody Sulllivan made a very similar construction on the outer 
> side of a cone ( http://sundials.org/index.php/component/sundials/onedial/746 
> )
> 
> Helmut Sonderegger
> www.helson.at
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 14.10.2013 06:16, schrieb rodwall1...@gmail.com:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Willy,
> 
>  
> 
> That?s a great idea, thanks for showing us. Maybe someone will include it in 
> their Sundial Software?
> 
>  
> 
> Roderick Wall.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> From: Willy Leenders
> Sent: ?Monday?, ?October? ?14?, ?2013 ?5?:?36? ?AM
> To: Sundial sundiallist
> 
>  
> 
> Dear sundialists,
> 
> I calculated a unique sundial on a cylindrical column of opal glass.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It is inaugurated in the vicinity of Brussels (Belgium).
> 
> The shadow of the sphere falls on the inside of the cylinder and can be seen 
> through the opalescent glass on the outside. There the shadow gives an 
> indication of the time and the date.
> 
> You can see more information specially translated for you in English on my 
> website on page http://www.wijzerweb.be/humbeek001AENGLISH.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Willy Leenders
> 
> Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Visit my website about the sundials in the province of Limburg (Flanders) 
> with a section 'worth knowing about sundials' (mostly in Dutch): 
> http://www.wijzerweb.be
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:20:07 -0700
> From: "John Carmichael" <jlcarmich...@comcast.net>
> To: "'Willy Leenders'" <willy.leend...@telenet.be>
> Cc: Sundial List <sundial@uni-koeln.de>
> Subject: RE: a unique sundial on a cylindrical column of opal glass
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> Hi Willy & others:
> 
>  
> 
> Similar glasses have been made by three others that I know of: Hendrik
> Hollander (2002),  Dr. Peter Zacharias (2011), and Jackie Jones and Mike
> Cowham (2011) 
> 
> Photos and descriptions below  from:
> http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_EGP.html 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/New%
> 20Files/SGS_106.jpg>
> http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/New%2
> 0Files/Thumbs/SGS_106t3.jpg
> 
>  
> <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/New%
> 20Files/SGS_469.jpg>
> http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/New%2
> 0Files/Thumbs/SGS_469t3.jpg
> 
>  
> <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/New%
> 20Files/SGS_468.jpg>
> http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/New%2
> 0Files/Thumbs/SGS_468t3.jpg
> 
> 
> Dial 106
> 
> Dial 469
> 
> Dial 468
> 
> 
> The Hollander Beer Glass Dial
> 
> The Sonnen Zylinder Dials
> 
> The Jackie Jones Beer Glass Dial
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Maker: Hendrik Hollander, famous award-winning Dutch sundial designer.
> Date: mid 2002
> Original Location: Lat: 52? N, Lon: 5? E. Amsterdam, Holland (The
> Netherlands).
> Present Location: 200 glasses were made originally and are now scattered
> throughout Holland.
> Orientation: variable. Glass must rest on horizontal table but works only
> when oriented towards the sun's direction.
> Size: height- 13.5 cm (5.3 in), width- 6 cm (2.3 in)
> Adornment: URL Website: Analemma.nl
> Mottos: none
> Condition: unknown
> Comments: The innovative idea of this etched drinking glass sundial is that
> you can see whether it is 5 pm so you can fill the glass with a beer. To
> tell Standard (clock) Time, you set the glass on a table in the sun and turn
> it until the shadow spot points at the right date. The glass doesn't need to
> be turned again. The glass will not function correctly if filled with liquid
> because of light refraction. In 2007 I came across the ?Livingtime? website
> below that sells similar drinking glass sundials. We have written to
> Livingtime to ask them if they are associated with Mr. Hollander but we have
> not received a reply. 
> Owner's Manuals (Dutch): Here
> <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/Stai
> ned_Glass_Sundial_106_manual_Dutch.pdf> 
> Owner's Manuals (English): Here
> <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/Stai
> ned_Glass_Sundial_106_manual_English.pdf> 
> Anelemma.nl (Dutch) Website: Here  <http://www.analemma.nl/> 
> Anelemma.nl (English) Website: Here <http://www.analemma.biz/> 
> Livingtime Website: Here <http://www.livingtime.ch/> 
> Hendrik Hollander?s Email: Here <mailto:hend...@analemma.nl> 
> Photo Descriptions: Photo ?a? is courtesy of Hendrik Hollander. Photo ?b? is
> copied from Livingtime website.
> Photos: a
> <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/New%
> 20Files/Originals/SGS_106a.jpg>  b
> <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/New%
> 20Files/Originals/SGS_106b.jpg>  
> 
> Delineator: Dr. Peter Zacharias, Vor dem Hassel 12, 21220 Seevetal, Tel.
> 0177 - 7 18 28 18 
> Glass Maker: unknown
> Date: unknown. Probably around 2011 
> Original Location: unknown. Probably Seevetal Germany
> Present Location: unknown somewhere in Germany
> Orientation: Inclination: vertical, Declination: variable 
> Size: variable
> Adornment: world maps
> Mottos: none visible
> Inscriptions: none 
> Condition: unknown
> Comments: Since we have not translated competely both websites, we are
> lacking information on these dials in English. Sundial uses the refraction
> of light in a cylinder to show the time and simultaneous date measurement,
> showing the current conditions of the sun over the earth. This new type of
> sun clock came from the hobby of a creative physicist (Dr. Erwin
> Kretschmann) after new mathematical computations. The clock was registered
> with the German patent and office for mark to 29.11.2007 into the register
> of designs under AZ. 20 2007 010 819.2.?
> Website: Here <http://www.sonnen-zylinder.com/Index.htm> 
> Website: Here <http://www.peter-zacharias.de/Geschichte.htm> 
> Email: Here <mailto:i...@sonnen-zylinder.com> 
> Photo Description: Photos are courtesy of Peter Zacharias and are taken from
> his website.
> Photos: a
> <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/New%
> 20Files/Originals/SGS_469a.jpg>  b
> <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/New%
> 20Files/Originals/SGS_469b.jpg>  
> 
> Delineators: Jackie Jones and Mike Cowham
> Designers: Jackie Jones, sundial designer, and Steve Chapman, an organizer
> of the Hanover Beer Festival in Brighton England. 
> Glass Maker: a firm in Wales called Inspiration
> Date: made in 2011 
> Original Location: Designed for Lat. 51? N. in Brighton England. 
> Present Location: 96 glasses were produced, most in 2011 were still in
> Brighton area. Although designed in Brighton, they work anywhere in the
> world at this latitude. It will continue to tell you the time through Canada
> ? Banff, Calgary, Regina, Moose River; Europe -  Bideford, Southampton,
> Calais, Gent, Brussels, Dresden; then the Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, north
> Mongolia and north China.
> Orientation: Inclination: inclining, nearly vertical, Declination: probably
> south 
> Size: one pint 23oz (653cc) beer glass. Height- 163mm (6.5in); width- 68 to
> 88mm (2.7 to 3.5in). There is a line to indicate the volume of a pint which
> allows room for a head of beer.
> Adornment: scrollwork with the basic instructions- ?Rotate the glass to
> place a spot of sunlight on the month column & read the time?.
> Mottos: unknown
> Inscriptions: Sunglass
> Condition: excellent in 2011
> Comments: This is an accurately designed altitude sundial made by screen
> printing. It doesn?t have to be fixed in one position.  It?s turned during
> the day so the sun always shines through the ring onto the current month.
> No compass is needed. First, either start with an empty glass or drink some
> of your beer: not too much, just so the current month is above the beer.
> This is because light is refracted differently through liquid.  Then place
> the glass on a level surface and turn it until the sun shines through the
> ring and onto the month you are in.  Select the part of the column that
> relates to the date ? if it is the 15th, aim the beam of sunlight at the
> middle.   Read the time off on the hour lines that go across the glass. You
> will find that, as time progresses, you will have to turn the glass round so
> the sun still shines on the same date. The beam of sunlight moves upwards in
> the afternoon or down towards noon if you have started drinking in the
> morning. It also shows sunrise and sunset times for any date ? just follow
> the date up to the top line and read the hour. Jackie Jones will be writing
> about its creation in the Dec 2011 British Sundial Society Bulletin.
> Website: Here <http://sundialglass.wordpress.com/> 
> Website: Here
> <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/www.silversundials.
> co.uk> 
> Email: Here <mailto:jac...@waitrose.com> 
> Photo Description: Photos are courtesy of Jackie Jones and were taken from
> her website.
> Photos: a
> <http://www.advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass/sundials_files/New%
> 20Files/Originals/SGS_468a.jpg>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: sundial [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Willy
> Leenders
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:37 AM
> To: Sundial sundiallist
> Subject: a unique sundial on a cylindrical column of opal glass
> 
>  
> 
> Dear sundialists,
> 
> I calculated a unique sundial on a cylindrical column of opal glass.
> 
>  
> 
> It is inaugurated in the vicinity of Brussels (Belgium).
> 
> The shadow of the sphere falls on the inside of the cylinder and can be seen
> through the opalescent glass on the outside. There the shadow gives an
> indication of the time and the date.
> 
> You can see more information specially translated for you in English on my
> website on page http://www.wijzerweb.be/humbeek001AENGLISH.html
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Willy Leenders
> 
> Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)
> 
>  
> 
> Visit my website about the sundials in the province of Limburg (Flanders)
> with a section 'worth knowing about sundials' (mostly in Dutch):
> http://www.wijzerweb.be
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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