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Thanks, Ian, for the search among mechanical EOT-watches.

IMHO (in my honest opinion), the best contribution to this theme was made by 
Martin Braun with the EOS, Helocentric and Boreas models. 
http://www.chrono24.com/en/martinbraun/index.htm  

Sunrize-sunset function needs fabric setting, but EOT indication and approach 
for indication this function is good for sundialists, not interested in other 
"complications".

Alex Krutiakov,

56.01N 37.89E


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>   1. Re: Longcase Clock with Equation of TIme
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>Subject: Re: Longcase Clock with Equation of TIme
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>Hi Ian,
>Thanks, never thought about smartwatch applications. Looks like I'll have to 
>purchase a smartwatch for me to have a watch with the equation of time. But 
>I'll have to wait until someone produces a application with a dial that has 
>the EOT.
>
>I notice that one of the android smartwatch application producers will add 
>your watch if you tell them what it is. Maybe we should ask them to do one of 
>the $30,000 EOT watches. That would be a lot cheaper.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Regards,
>
>Roderick Wall.
>
>----- Reply message -----
>From: "Ian Maddocks" < [email protected] >
>To: "Willy Leenders" < [email protected] >, "Sundial list" < 
>[email protected] >
>Subject: Longcase Clock with Equation of TIme
>Date: Sun, Oct 9, 2016 7:40 AM
>
>hi Willy
>
>
>As is the answer to so many things these days...  There's an app for that
>
>If you have a smart watch you can create your own watch face as you like it 
>with underlying code
>
>For example
>
>https://play.google.com/store/search?q=watchmaker&c=apps&hl=en
>
>shows all the watch-face making apps for android smart watches
>
>I only found one reference to EoT in the G+ forum for the first (WatchMaker) 
>app
>(The e-watch was a recreation of a two sided real watch with EoT but they 
>didnt' seem to have replicated the second side that had the EoT)
>so there's a gap in the market to be plugged!
>
>
>And in case anyone is interested .  If you want a mechanical watch with EoT 
>here's a watch selling site with a search included
>http://www.chrono24.co.uk/search/index.htm?query=equation+of+time&dosearch=true&searchexplain=1
>But expect to be paying at least one kidney....
>
>
>
>Ian Maddocks
>Chester, UK
>53?11'50"N  2?52'41"W
>frog.happy.froze
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: sundial < [email protected] > on behalf of Willy Leenders < 
>[email protected] >
>Sent: 08 October 2016 18:15
>To:  [email protected]
>Cc: Kevin Karney; Sundial list
>Subject: Re: Longcase Clock with Equation of TIme
>
>
>More interesting is to know whether there exist modern timepieces which 
>indicate the solar time.
>With the possibilities of electronics and a built-in GPS system it can not be 
>so difficult.
>
>
>Willy Leenders
>Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)
>
>Visit my website about the sundials in the province of Limburg (Flanders) with 
>a section 'worth knowing about sundials' (mostly in Dutch):  
>http://www.wijzerweb.be
>
>
>
>Op 8-okt-2016, om 19:32 heeft [email protected]<mailto: 
>[email protected] > het volgende geschreven:
>
>Hi all,
>
>This is an interesting website on equation clocks.
>
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equation_clock
>
>Regards,
>
>Roderick Wall.
>
>----- Reply message -----
>From: "Kevin Karney" <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected] >>
>To: "[email protected]<mailto: [email protected] >" 
><[email protected]<mailto: [email protected] >>
>Cc: "Sundial list" <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected] >>
>Subject: Longcase Clock with Equation of TIme
>Date: Sat, Oct 8, 2016 4:28 AM
>
>
>As explained by Fred Sawyer in a recent lecture to the British Sundial 
>Society, if often worked the other way around... people had an equation table 
>and all kinds of rules so that they could adjust their clock so that it 
>matched dial time for as long as possible.
>
>Dial time was (and still is for some) 'true' time. The acceptance of local 
>mean time was a slow process. Likewise the acceptance of national mean time 
>met with a great deal of resistance. In Dorchester in 1858, in the UK, a judge 
>in a court case found in favour of the plaintiff, since the defendant was not 
>present at 10:00 o'clock when the case was scheduled. The court was using GMT. 
>The defendant arrived at 10:00 local mean time - a few minutes late. He 
>appealed and the appeal judge ruled...
>"Ten o?clock is 10 o?clock according to the Time of the Place and the Town 
>Council cannot say that it is not, ?but that it is 10 o?clock by Greenwich 
>time. Nor can the time be altered by a railway company.? Nor by any person who 
>regulates the clock on the Town-Hall."
>
>Unless you lived in a (maritime) city, or had an astronomer on hand, or a 
>local rich man who went up to the city and owned a chronometer, there was NO 
>way to set a clock without a Sundial. It all changed with the the arrival of 
>the telegraph....   I have found that this is something that watch and clock 
>enthusiasts sometimes forget!
>
>Kevin
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 7 Oct 2016, at 11:07, [email protected]<mailto: [email protected] 
>> > <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected] >> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In 1730. I think I heard somewhere that. Clock manufacturers also sometimes 
>> gave a small window sundial to allow you to set your clock. With a equation 
>> of time table. Is that correct?
>>
>> Roderick Wall..
>>
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Robert Terwilliger" <[email protected]<mailto: [email protected] >>
>> To: "'Ian Maddocks'" <[email protected]<mailto: 
>> [email protected] >>, "'Sundial list'" <[email protected]<mailto: 
>> [email protected] >>
>> Subject: Longcase Clock with Equation of TIme
>> Date: Fri, Oct 7, 2016 1:00 PM
>>
>> If you had a similar clock in 1730 - located where you didn't have access to
>> another accurate clock, a sundial would be the only way you could set it -
>> and to do so you would need to know the equation for the date.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>   _____
>>
>> From: sundial [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian
>> Maddocks
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2016 12:29 PM
>> To: Sundial list
>> Subject: Longcase Clock with Equation of TIme
>>
>>
>>
>> hi folks
>>
>>
>>
>> I was just blundering around the internet when I came across the following
>> that may be of interest..
>>
>>
>>
>> A long case clock from 1730 London that has an annual dial for displaying
>> the date and the equation of time
>>
>>  http://www.raffetyclocks.com/antique-clocks/d/antique-month-equation-and-yea
>> r-calendar-longcase-clock-by-john-topping-london/170271
>>
>> It's a premade disk with EoT table that rotates in a year, not a P&G type
>> kidney cam, but was new clock complication to me
>>
>>
>>
>> greetings from
>>
>>
>>
>> Ian Maddocks
>> Chester, UK
>> 53?11'50"N  2?52'41"W
>> frog.happy.froze
>>
>>
>>
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