Hi Roger:

The Apparent retrograde motion of Mars can be seen with the naked eye.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_retrograde_motion
The math to predict it's orbit is much simpler when the heliocentric system is 
used.

The Antikythera mechanism needed to add Epicyclic gearing to account for the 
planet motions in the geocentric system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicyclic_gearing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

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A better question is how could you show _before telescopes were invented_ that the earth orbits the sun rather than the sun orbiting the earth. We all observe that the sun, moon and stars rise and set. Sundial design is the same for geocentric and heliocentric systems.

Regards, Roger Bailey

Global location: N 48.6°, W 123.4°

*From: *Ruud Hooijenga <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *June 17, 2019 7:22 AM
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject: *Re: Can a sundial disprove Flat Earth?

No, that was not a proof of the globe; just a measurement of its size, assuming the globe. A small, close sun over a flat earth could give the same result for the two locations.

However, several other observations had already proved the globe.
And you could repeat the Eratosthenes experiment in more than two places, so that the flat earth/local sun assumption would have to be discarded.

However, to a dedicated flerfer this will prove nothing, because everything is a NASA hoax (it was even in Eratosthenes' time, apparently).
It's no use wrestling a pig - it will only get you dirty, and the pig enjoys it.

Rudolf

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    Op 17 juni 2019 om 16:04 schreef [email protected]:

Didn't Eratosthenes show that the earth was round by measuring the diameter?


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