Hi Steve,

as I built a large one (https://Kepleruhr.eu with 240m²) and thought some
about getting as accurate as possible here are my readings so far:

1) If you go for a sharp edge you will find out that the penumbra is all the
times about 2 min in width which is the wandering time of all of the sun
diameter: The sun diameter is roughly 0.5° in the sky and it takes roughly 2
min for the sun to move this angle. The penumbra in angle does not depend on
the distance from the gnomon to the face. So I would suggest that the
reading would be +/-2 min for untrained and about +/-1 min for trained
observers. This is valid for sundials using the bypassing shadow of the
Gnomon or the moving flare of any rectangle or circular iris.

2) I estimate a reading accuracy of the Kepleruhr by +/-15 sec (at high noon
only): There is a wandering flare of 2 cm (+/- penumbra) with two side edges
on a line of 2 cm which increases the reading accuracy. This wandering flare
is produced by a spherical Nodus with this 2 cm gap southwards. There are
some movies at the concerning YouTube-channel (links given at the website).

3) In my case I made the calibration of the sundial by
   a) calculate the hour and day line positioning by given parameters
(declination, geometry of gnomon, Nodus, wall)
   b) erect the gnomon to the wall firstly without the painting
   c) observe the shadow at one of the next fully sunny days - taking series
of photos, calibrate them with respect to lens distortions, positioning, etc
   d) find the hourly shadow positions by machine vision techniques
   e) adjust the above given parameter set as long as the total error of
deviations between the calculated and measured positions got a minimum
   f) calculate the lines with the latest parameter set and do the painting.
   g) BINGO - it turned out (observing the sundial since years) that the
lines correctly follow the shadow on time.

4) I am on to build a sundial with a second reading of high noon - and did
do the concerning presentations (theory, fulfilled and planned
implementation steps) at sundial conferences in Austria.

Good luck!
Kurt

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: sundial [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Steve
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juli 2019 19:38
An: Sundial List <[email protected]>
Betreff: What accuracy to aim for with a carefully made sundial?

Hello everyone,

I'm planning to make a small vertical west dial, about 1m for the width of
the dial face, at my latitude of 49N. It will not use a nodus.

The angular width of the sun makes it hard to get a really accurate time
reading, but there will also be small errors from mis-positioning of the
dial plate when installing (declination and inclination), imprecise
positioning of the gnomon or the hour lines, and perhaps other causes too.

First, questions directed at those of you who have practical experience of
creating vertical sundials: If I'm careful and have a well-machined gnomon,
what level of accuracy might be achievable in practice? I assume 
+/- 5 minutes throughout the day and year is fairly easy to achieve, but
what about +/- 2 minutes, or even +/- 1 minute? How well did you do? How did
you measure your wall's declination?

Second, have there been any studies of how well dial users compensate for a
penumbra - by which I mean gathering data from volunteers, studying the
spread of errors in time readings taken from a dial versus a reference time
source? (without employing a shadow sharpener)

Thanks,

Steve



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