Dear Donald,
The proper name for this type of altitude sundial is “ring dial.”  Please do 
not refer to it as an Aquitaine ring or farmer’s ring.  Those were marketing 
names used by a modern jeweler.

Many museum collections have ring dials, including those at the Adler 
Planetarium in Chicago, the National Maritime Museum of Greenwich, the Science 
History Museum in Oxford, and others.  Most are very simple but others can be 
mathematically complex and be adjustable for latitude and season.

I believe R. Newton Mayall and Margaret Mayall give instructions on the 
arrangement of hour lines in their book, Sundials.

Good luck with your project.

Sara

Sara J. Schechner, PhD, FAAS
Curator Emerita, Collection of Historical Scientific Instruments, Harvard 
University
President, IAU Commission C3 (History of Astronomy)
President, IAU-IUHPST Inter-Union Commission for History of Astronomy (ICHA)
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From: sundial <sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de> On Behalf Of Donald Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2024 2:10 AM
To: Steve Lelievre <steve.lelievre.can...@gmail.com>
Cc: Sundial mailing list <sundial@uni-koeln.de>
Subject: Re: portable sundial

Thanks for the info. Do you know where I can find the mathematical 
calculations? I'd like to make one
Cheers
Donald Christensen
0467 332 227

If you focus on what you lack, you'll lose what you have. If you focus on what 
you have, you gain what you lack.


On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 3:29 PM Steve Lelievre 
<steve.lelievre.can...@gmail.com<mailto:steve.lelievre.can...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

It sounds to me like a reference to what is sometimes called an Aquitaine Ring 
(because of a story that Elenor of Aquitaine gave one to her husband to be). 
Also known as a Farmer’s Ring.

Modern ones are readily available. Just search the internet for “Aquitaine Ring”

Steve



On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 at 20:53, Donald Christensen 
<dchristensen...@gmail.com<mailto:dchristensen...@gmail.com>> wrote:

In the book,

Sundials: Their Theory and Construction Paperback – 1 June 1973

by ALBERT WAUGH (Author)



He explained a portable sundial that worked similar to a shepard’s dial. 
Instead of a gnomon that cast a shadow on the pillar, this looked more like a 
ring. Instead of a shadow that told the time, a beam of light showed through a 
hole in the ring. There were groves on the inside of the ring. Time was read by 
inspecting wherever the beam of light touched one of these grooves. The ring 
would hang from a string.



Does anyone have any information about this sundial?

Cheers
Donald Christensen
0467 332 227

If you focus on what you lack, you'll lose what you have. If you focus on what 
you have, you gain what you lack.
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