On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 04:16:14PM -0400, Bob Doolittle wrote:
> Gary Mills wrote:
> >On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 02:17:46PM -0400, Bob Doolittle wrote:
> >>What kind of hardware platform are you using?
> >>Are you using Solaris or Linux?
> >
> >Solaris 10 8/07 x86.
> 
> Hardware configuration please?  How much memory?
> How many sessions on your server (not just active ones)?

16 gigabytes on an X4200.  Only one session.

> >>If you have an undersized and overloaded server,
> >>any period of intense system activity can cause
> >>temporary starvation of heartbeats to the Sun Ray
> >>which can result in timeouts such as you describe
> >>if the resource oversubscription is sufficiently
> >>large and/or kernel scheduling is sufficiently
> >>poor. So we need to understand your situation better.
> >
> >No, it's not that.  The Sun Ray server is typically idle.
> >I can produce the timeout reliably with those three triggers.
> >It only happens with my Sun Ray behind my NAT router.
> 
> I occasionally see this on small systems which are paging heavily
> (e.g. a U40 with 2GB memory and 4-5 sessions).  This can happen
> even with only one active Sun Ray if there are a number
> of inactive sessions with processes with large RSS segments which
> can't be paged out.

As I said before, that's not the problem.

> But I don't know how NAT would come into play.  There's little
> in common with logging into Solaris and logging into Windows
> with uttsc.  Perhaps larger WAN latencies and/or a lossy WAN
> link exacerbate the problem of heartbeat starvation under paging
> load.  What does utcapture tell you during this period?  How about
> vmstat, do you get a spike in paging activity during this period?

I disagree.  Both logging in and starting a Windows connector session
initiate a new connection to the Sun Ray client.  NAT means that my
Sun Ray can initiate connections, but can't accept them without
cooperation with the NAT router.  I included the snoop results in a
previous message.  It's pretty clear.  Something changed in the most
recent version of the Sun Ray server software to provoke this
behavior.

-- 
-Gary Mills-    -Unix Support-    -U of M Academic Computing and Networking-
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