You know, the whole time I had this feeling that this is way to hard which is 
not typical of an SRS install/upgrade. I should have checked the BUI after 
utinstall/reboot and I would have seen that everything was fine. Dang. Lesson 
learned. " ... trust the Force, Luke". 

Art

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On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Bob Doolittle <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 12/08/10 09:55, Art Peck wrote:
>>  Just completed an upgrade from SRSS 4.1 + SRWC 2.2 to SRS 5.2 + SRWC 2.3 on 
>> RHEL 5.4. To say the least, it did not go smoothly. What is usually about an 
>> hour on Solaris servers took 8 hours on RHEL 5.4 do to a comedy of 
>> errors/problems. So I have the following questions:
>> 
>> (1) I know changing the hostname is definitely not a recommended procedure, 
>> but I can't see why you would not be able to change the IP address of the 
>> server. However, nothing we did would convince SRSS that the server had a 
>> new IP address. The admin BUI was especially impacted. Any thoughts?
> 
> Not by me, sorry.
> 
>> (2) How DOES one determine if the installed version of GDM is appropriate. I 
>> assume there is some form of the rpm command to give output similar to 
>> pkginfo? This of course is a RHEL/Linux question, but it cost us some time 
>> trying to figure it out, so I thought I'd ask. In the end we stuck with the 
>> installed version rather than install the version in the release. Is this a 
>> bad thing? Is the version in the release customized for SRSS? If so, what do 
>> we do now? can we go back an install the released version or do we need to 
>> start completely over (NOT!).
> 
> This isn't something anyone should worry about. If the version of GDM needs 
> to be replaced, the installer will take care of it. The version on RHEL is 
> used natively, it's only on SLES 10 that the Sun Ray version is utilized.
> 
> That's why there's no mention of this in the installation documentation:
> http://wikis.sun.com/display/SRSS4dot2/START+HERE+to+Install+SRSS+%28Linux%29
> 
> If you really cared to check, you could run "rpm -q gdm". There's a "sunray" 
> suffix to the version string for the RPM we provide.
> 
>> (3) Following a successful utinstall,is a complete run of utconfig, that is, 
>> without options, required?
> 
> No. If you do try to run utconfig on a system that is already configured, 
> then after the standard preamble you will get a message like this:
> 
>> WARNING: Sun Ray Datastore is enabled. This script may clobber the current 
>> configuration.
>> 
>> 
>> Continue (y/[n])?
> 
> Note that the default is "no", since it's harmful to continue. You must have 
> not noticed this and overrode the default? It should be in the logs... On 
> Linux the utconfig logs are in /var/log/SUNWut.
> 
>> harmful? really dumb?
> 
> Yes, probably.
> 
>> OR do you just need utconfig -w to reconfigure the admin BUI with the 
>> location of Tomcat?
> 
> Why did the location change? Normally you wouldn't need this, either. If you 
> need to change the location, it's best to do "utconfig -uw; utconfig -w" and 
> reconfigure it from scratch (there's not much configuration required for the 
> web server).
> 
>> I did a "complete" utconfig, without options, which complained about port 
>> 1660/1661 being in use which I completely understand but did not expect. We 
>> go around it, but I don't see that you should really encounter that problem 
>> so I suspect we did not want utconfig without options.
> 
> You didn't want utconfig at all :-(
> 
>> (4) Same question as (3) but regarding utconfig -k.
> 
> Same answer. Upgrades should not require reconfiguration of *any* sort. 
> There's actually a special invocation of utconfig run *by the installer* 
> after an upgrade which takes care of any necessary data migration required by 
> the new version of SRS. Admins never need to do this.
> 
>> (5) We did out own preservation of the Data Store contents by putting the 
>> output of utuser/utdesktop/utresadm -o into files and reloading them later. 
>> I was under the impression that utconfig would preserve these for us, but 
>> out skepticism paid off since we wound up with an empty Data Store. We were 
>> able to recover of course, but I would like to understand where we went 
>> wrong. Is this a result of (3)??
> 
> Probably, yes, as the warning should have indicated.
> 
>> (6) RFE: a pre-upgrade script that inspects the current installation and 
>> spells out exactly what needs to be upgraded in the OS and current SRSS 
>> installation prior to the SRS upgrade.
>> 
>> I have not encountered these problems in past upgrades. Is there something 
>> fundementally different with SRS 5.2? Aside from what is in the Release 
>> Notes that is.
> 
> Presumably you've not tried to reconfigure after an upgrade before. "That 
> trick never works..."
> 
> The bottom line is: you're trying way too hard here. utinstall should have 
> been sufficient. utconfig is not designed to be run twice, and tries to 
> protect you from doing so. Perhaps it doesn't try hard enough - I can think 
> of no valid reason to allow utconfig to continue if it detects an existing 
> configuration. It should perhaps require an explicit unconfiguration first, 
> rather than allowing you to override its warnings and continue down a path 
> that's certain to have issues (such as the port 1660 issue).
> 
> I also think the warning is a bit subtle, since it comes up after a somewhat 
> lengthy standard preamble and then gives a Continue prompt which looks 
> similar to the normal prompt (even though the default is changed).
> 
> -Bob
> 
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