That is what I was afraid of. I guess I can put the DTUs in their own subnet if 
needed.

Do you know if they will only broadcast to their own network (ie, DTU IP is 
99.99.28.10/16, will they only broadcast to 99.99.255.255), or do they 
eventually try 255.255.255.255 for broadcast also?


-Jon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Winder" <[email protected]>
To: "SunRay-Users mailing list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:59:13 AM
Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Broadcast Discovery

Nothing avoids the broadcast .... it _always_ happens after every other 
option, including DNS is exhausted ...

Paul

Jonathan C. Bailey wrote:
> I've got multiple FOGs, so I don't want to employ the DNS solution (we 
> actually did the DNS setup at one point and removed it).
> 
> What would happen if I supplied a blank X servers or AltAuth list? I assume 
> params first, then fail when AltAuth is blank? Or does the DTU treat a blank 
> AltAuth as non-existent (and continue on)?
> 
> -Jon
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jörg Barfurth" <[email protected]>
> To: "SunRay-Users mailing list" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:39:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Broadcast Discovery
> 
> Jonathan C. Bailey schrieb:
>> I've finally had a chance to put Wireshark on it and see what exactly
>> is happening.
>>
>> My network is (anonymized) is 99.99.0.0/16. I split it off into
>> multiple /24s with DTUs for each FOG in their own /24. I then use ISC
>> DHCPd (on a server unrelated to the Sun Ray environment) to issue IPs
>> and hand out a "tftp-server-name" appropriate for each subnet.
>> Normally the DTUs grab the parms file off the specified TFTP server
>> (which contains server IPs), and everything is happy. If the TFTP
>> server is down, however, then they go into broadcast mode looking for
>> *any* FOG in the /16.
>>
>>> From the discussions here, it sounds like broadcast discovery has
>>> to be explicitly enabled (by adding a wildcard to the AltAuth
>>> list). I'm only doing "utadm -L on" on the hosts and not
>>> configuring an interconnect (and by extension, DHCPd) that would
>>> publish the AltAuth list. This makes it seem that broadcast
>>> discovery is default if no AltAuth list exists and the config
>>> server can't be reached.
> 
> It is.
> 
>> This is the specific behavior I would like to disable.
>>
> 
> [Disclaimer: All he following is if I recall correctly. Please test 
> yourself.]
> 
> IIRC a server list in option 49 (X Window servers) from DHCP is treated 
> like an AltAuth custom option.
> 
> If you have both a 'servers' list (from the .parms file) and option 
> 49/AltAuth, the 'servers' take precedence, but if none of them is used 
> the AltAuth list will be checked as well.
> 
> (Of course the lists could even be the same)
> 
> Another option might be to set up DNS to resolve the 'sunray-servers' 
> name, but I'm not completely sure, if that helps to avoid broadcast, if 
> the resulting IP address doesn't respond..
> 
>> I may just end up opening a SR for this, but I want to bring this to
>> the public list first to help people in the future that have the same
>> situation. Thanks!
>>
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Jörg
> 
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