Sorry, I guess I was a little vague.  I don't think that the access to
information is any better or worse.  Oracle discontinued many programs that
Sun had for education customers (such as the deeply discounted price list
and the hardware grant program), and has made legally using Solaris and Sun
Ray more expensive with the new requirement to purchase hardware support in
order to receive firmware updates (what if I don't care to extend the
warranty?), as well as requiring a paid subscription to use Solaris, and
eliminating support tiers.  In essence, they have untargeted the education
market, which is where students gain exposure to technology and then promote
that technology by word-of-mouth after they enter industry.  Now, I'm not
saying Sun necessarily did everything right, after all, Oracle runs a
profitable business right now and was in a position to buy Sun, but these
are just some of the things that I don't necessarily agree with in terms of
supporting the longevity of the products.  On the other hand, what Oracle
has done is great for increasing profit margins, satisfying stockholders,
and ultimately keeping the engineers paid, which also aren't bad things.

William Yang

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Subject: [SunRay-Users] Regarding Access to Sun Ray after Oracle

I do not see any difference between Sun and Oracle regarding access to Sun
Ray information.  Sun Ray is a tremendous product and I always felt it was a
"closely guarded secret" with Sun and maybe not so much with Oracle.  That
is my perception.  SRSS 5.2 has been loaded on a Solaris
10 system x86 and has been successfully tested at least for software
development.  The installation was straight forward.  The only downside I
see with Oracle is that their site is more difficult to navigate.  But then
the Sun site wasn't the best in the world I did like the Sun colors better
than Oracle red.

Rich Rutkowski
Petra Systems
1-888-513-3026
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>> To be fair, I do add some level of value to Oracle.? My company 
>> recently
> aborted a VDI rollout using a competing solution for 100 seats with 
> the intent to use it as a proving ground to rollout to thousands of 
> seats spanning three continents.? I had pointed out early on that 
> Oracle has a VDI solution which would easily cover the problem areas 
> identified early in the process.? While I didn't change the outcome, I was
a voice.
>
>> This was only possible because I have familiarity with SRSS outside 
>> of my
> job.
>
> I feel like the biggest change after Oracle took over is that it is 
> harder to gain exposure to Sun Ray and Solaris outside of a production 
> environment, in part because I think Oracle tends to think in terms of 
> monetary value versus free marketing value.  But what do I know.  I 
> agree with Marty though, there is a lot of value in word-of-mouth.
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