We are also struggling to find a thin client solution that users embrace and is easy to manage. With only about 150 Sun Rays in an environment of 6000 computers, there is just not the critical mass or management support at this time. In my opinion Sun Rays need a 300+ implementation in order to be cost effective. Curious what other say about this. It appears that other non-Zero clients require less critical mass and expertise.
I concur that the Sun Ray technology may be neglected by Oracle and therefore will fade away. Very unfortunate since virtualizing the desktop and thin client technology looks to be promising. Wyse (Dell) and others will gladly take the market share. Rob -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: SunRay-Users Digest, Vol 112, Issue 3 Send SunRay-Users mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of SunRay-Users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Wyse thin client vs sunray (Steven Gelsie) 2. Re: Wyse thin client vs sunray (Jens Langner) 3. Re: SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1 (Blaster) 4. Re: SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1 (Kent Peacock) 5. Re: SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1 (Blaster) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 16:11:34 -0400 From: Steven Gelsie <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [SunRay-Users] Wyse thin client vs sunray Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed At lunch I ran into some colleagues that were switching from Sunrays to Wyse thin clients. So naturally I ask them why and the response was cost. I have not gone through the exercise of pricing a Sunray configuration compared to a Wyse terminal configuration but probable will have to in the near future. Has any body in the sunray group gone through the process of justifying the Sunrays over the Wyse terminals ( including server cost) ? Steve -- Steven Gelsie Email: [email protected] Johns Hopkins Univ./APL Phone: 240-228-4081 DC 11100 Johns Hopkins Rd 443-778-4081 Baltimore Laurel, MD 20723-6099 FAX: 240-228-6119 Work Schedule : Mon-Thurs 8:30AM-5PM Friday Work At Home ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 00:13:45 +0200 From: Jens Langner <[email protected]> To: SunRay-Users mailing list <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] Wyse thin client vs sunray Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Steve, we are currently ourself in the process of switching from using SunRays to utilizing the intel NUC platform as a ThinClient by using an optimized version of the Linux-based thinstation distribution together with ThinLinc. Here, not only the much lower costs are the main reasons for our switch, but the worse support since Oracle took over and because there is no real roadmap for any bigger enhancements coming in terms of the SunRay technology. Sorry to say so, but I guess I will sooner or later unsubscribe myself from this list as soon as our switch to the other platform has been finalized. best regards, jens Am 02.05.2013 um 22:11 schrieb Steven Gelsie <[email protected]>: > At lunch I ran into some colleagues that were switching from Sunrays to Wyse > thin clients. So naturally I ask them why and the response was cost. I > have not gone through the exercise of pricing a Sunray configuration > compared to a Wyse terminal configuration but probable will have to in the > near future. Has any body in the sunray group gone through the process of > justifying the Sunrays over the Wyse terminals ( including server cost) ? > > Steve > > -- > Steven Gelsie Email: [email protected] > Johns Hopkins Univ./APL Phone: 240-228-4081 DC > 11100 Johns Hopkins Rd 443-778-4081 Baltimore > Laurel, MD 20723-6099 FAX: 240-228-6119 > Work Schedule : Mon-Thurs 8:30AM-5PM > Friday Work At Home -- Dr. Jens Langner Helmholtz-Zentrum Dresden-Rossendorf Institute of Radiopharmaceutical Cancer Research Department of Positron Emission Tomography POB 51 01 19, 01314 Dresden, Germany http://www.hzdr.de/ | +49 351 260 2757 Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Dr. h. c. Roland Sauerbrey Prof. Dr. Dr. h. c. Peter Joehnk VR 1693 beim Amtsgericht Dresden -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 5/2/2013 1:41 AM, Kent Peacock wrote: > What firmware is running on the 150s? > > Kent > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 1, 2013, at 22:32, Blaster <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> hello, >> >> I'm running Sun Ray Software 5.4.0.0.44 Sun Ray Operating Software >> 11.1.1.0.06 on Solaris X64 11.1 using SunRay 150 terminals. >> >> Are these terminals still usable? I see there is no longer any >> firmware for them in the 11.1.1.0.06 software. >> >> My problem is, the 150 boots up, I get a login window. I enter a >> userid then a password, then I just get an hour glass with a 26D >> error box that never goes away. >> >> What am I missing? >> >> Thanks. >> _______________________________________________ >> SunRay-Users mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users > > > _______________________________________________ > SunRay-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kent ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 00:05:12 -0500 From: Blaster <[email protected]> To: SunRay-Users mailing list <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SunRay-Users] SRS 5.4 26D on Solaris 11.1 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" I found newer firmware, I'm running 4.3_146928-01_2011.06.03.14.41 now... Here's my log, I don't see anything odd...When I enter user/pass now, I get the Oracle logo and the circle. After a while I'll get a 24D ten the screen just freezes. May 2 23:49:41 gremlin utauthd: [ID 747161 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: CONNECT IEEE802.080020fe24dd, pseudo.080020fe24dd, all connections allowed May 2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 118801 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: MTU = 1500 May 2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 979488 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: SessionManager.getSessionManager: Initiate callback to utsessiond at localhost:7007 May 2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 233143 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: SessionManager.initiateCallback localhost:7010 established communication May 2 23:49:42 gremlin utdtsession: [ID 702911 user.info] Add (14,pseudo.080020fe24dd,special) May 2 23:49:42 gremlin utauthd: [ID 673696 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: SESSION_OK pseudo.080020fe24dd May 2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Setting xkb dflts, xorg, sun_type6_usb, us May 2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] newtLoadKbdMap(): layout 0 -> Success, sun_type6_usb, us May 2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Setting xkb dflts, xorg, sun_type6_usb, us May 2 23:49:42 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] newtLoadKbdMap(): layout 33 -> Success, sun_type6_usb, us May 2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 634092 user.notice] Error opening catalog nscloginGUI May 2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error opening PAM message catalog: [libpam] May 2 23:49:43 gremlin last message repeated 1 time May 2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error opening PAM message catalog: [pam_unix] May 2 23:49:43 gremlin last message repeated 1 time May 2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error opening PAM message catalog: [pam_smartcard] May 2 23:49:43 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion May 2 23:49:43 gremlin last message repeated 2 times May 2 23:49:43 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 118685 user.info] pam_sunray_amgh::[DPY=14] AMGH_SUMMARY: token=pseudo.080020fe24dd, username=*NONE*, AMGH_Done?=NO(Local Session), Details=AMGH is not configured., AMGH_Target=*NONE* May 2 23:50:18 gremlin guloginGUI: [ID 118685 user.info] pam_sunray_amgh::[DPY=14] AMGH_SUMMARY: token=pseudo.080020fe24dd, username=cbr, AMGH_Done?=NO(Local Session), Details=AMGH is not configured., AMGH_Target=*NONE* May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] kill: 28707: no such process May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] kill: 28708: no such process May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utdtsession: [ID 702911 user.info] Delete (14,pseudo.080020fe24dd) May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] DeleteInputDeviceRequest(d83ac0) May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] DeleteInputDeviceRequest(d83f00) May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] DeleteInputDeviceRequest(dc8f10) May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] DeleteInputDeviceRequest(dc9350) May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] DeleteInputDeviceRequest(de8870) May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] DeleteInputDeviceRequest(de8cb0) May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 794400 user.info] SessionManager0 NOTICE: EMPTY: ACTIVE session May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 935498 user.info] Terminator NOTICE: DISCONNECT IEEE802.080020fe24dd, pseudo.080020fe24dd session terminated May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 226395 user.info] SessionManager0 NOTICE: TERMINATE: ACTIVE session May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 581857 user.info] Terminator NOTICE: DESTROY pseudo.080020fe24dd lifetime=36648 May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 331791 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: whichServer auth.cbr: May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 232540 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: CLAIMED by StartxlationSession.m8 NAME: mobile.IEEE802-080020fe24dd PARAMETERS: {savedType=auth, terminalIPA=172.16.2.106, type=mobile, fw=4.3_146928-01_2011.06.03.14.41,Boot:14444000000000000::::4444BST, username=cbr, state=disconnected, cause=insert, doamgh=false, barrierLevel=430, lockaction=disconnect, rawId=080020fe24dd, terminalCID=IEEE802.080020fe24dd, MTU=1500, auth=false, tokenSeq=1, firstServer=ac100201, namespace=IEEE802, keyTypes=dsa-sha1-x1,dsa-sha1, ddcconfig=0, currentMod=3, clientRand=yxB77auFeyvc.s6bUK2PO7Mece2KI.24WB.x2jFb5AW, id=IEEE802-080020fe24dd, realIP=ac10026a, startRes=1024x768, quicklogin=true, useReal=true, event=insert, sn=080020fe24dd, savedId=cbr, rawType=pseudo, clientKeyStatus=unconfirmed, hw=SunRayP3, initState=1, _=1} May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 526354 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: CONNECT IEEE802.080020fe24dd, mobile.IEEE802-080020fe24dd, all connections allowed May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 118801 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: MTU = 1500 May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utdtsession: [ID 702911 user.info] Add (14,mobile.IEEE802-080020fe24dd,special) May 2 23:50:18 gremlin utauthd: [ID 165483 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: SESSION_OK mobile.IEEE802-080020fe24dd May 2 23:50:19 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Setting xkb dflts, xorg, sun_type6_usb, us May 2 23:50:19 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] newtLoadKbdMap(): layout 0 -> Success, sun_type6_usb, us May 2 23:50:20 gremlin nscloginGUI: [ID 634092 user.notice] Error opening catalog nscloginGUI May 2 23:50:20 gremlin nscloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error opening PAM message catalog: [libpam] May 2 23:50:20 gremlin last message repeated 1 time May 2 23:50:20 gremlin nscloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error opening PAM message catalog: [pam_unix] May 2 23:50:20 gremlin last message repeated 1 time May 2 23:50:20 gremlin nscloginGUI: [ID 693915 user.notice] Error opening PAM message catalog: [pam_smartcard] May 2 23:50:20 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion May 2 23:50:20 gremlin last message repeated 2 times May 2 23:50:20 gremlin nscloginGUI: [ID 118685 user.info] pam_sunray_amgh::[DPY=14] AMGH_SUMMARY: token=mobile.IEEE802-080020fe24dd, username=cbr, AMGH_Done?=NO(Local Session), Details=AMGH is not configured., AMGH_Target=*NONE* May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] kill: 29459: no such process May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] kill: 29460: no such process May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utdtsession: [ID 702911 user.info] Delete (14,mobile.IEEE802-080020fe24dd) May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] DeleteInputDeviceRequest(d83ac0) May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] DeleteInputDeviceRequest(d83f00) May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] DeleteInputDeviceRequest(dc8f10) May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] DeleteInputDeviceRequest(dc9350) May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] DeleteInputDeviceRequest(de8870) May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utxinit@dpy14: [ID 702911 user.info] DeleteInputDeviceRequest(de8cb0) May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utauthd: [ID 794400 user.info] SessionManager0 NOTICE: EMPTY: ACTIVE session May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utauthd: [ID 108520 user.info] Terminator NOTICE: DISCONNECT IEEE802.080020fe24dd, mobile.IEEE802-080020fe24dd session terminated May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utauthd: [ID 226395 user.info] SessionManager0 NOTICE: TERMINATE: ACTIVE session May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utauthd: [ID 827061 user.info] Terminator NOTICE: DESTROY mobile.IEEE802-080020fe24dd lifetime=7122 May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utauthd: [ID 736070 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: CLAIMED by StartSession.m9 NAME: auth.cbr PARAMETERS: {savedType=auth, terminalIPA=172.16.2.106, type=auth, fw=4.3_146928-01_2011.06.03.14.41,Boot:14444000000000000::::4444BST, username=cbr, state=disconnected, cause=insert, doamgh=false, barrierLevel=430, lockaction=disconnect, rawId=080020fe24dd, terminalCID=IEEE802.080020fe24dd, MTU=1500, auth=true:login, tokenSeq=1, firstServer=ac100201, namespace=IEEE802, keyTypes=dsa-sha1-x1,dsa-sha1, ddcconfig=0, currentMod=8, clientRand=yxB77auFeyvc.s6bUK2PO7Mece2KI.24WB.x2jFb5AW, id=cbr, realIP=ac10026a, startRes=1024x768, quicklogin=true, useReal=true, event=insert, sn=080020fe24dd, savedId=cbr, rawType=pseudo, clientKeyStatus=unconfirmed, hw=SunRayP3, initState=1, _=1} May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utauthd: [ID 898436 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: CONNECT IEEE802.080020fe24dd, auth.cbr, all connections allowed May 2 23:50:25 gremlin utauthd: [ID 118801 user.info] Worker7 NOTICE: MTU = 1500 May 2 23:50:26 gremlin utdtsession: [ID 702911 user.info] Add (14,auth.cbr,normal) May 2 23:51:20 gremlin in.dhcpd[1961]: [ID 943880 daemon.info] Database write unnecessary for DHCP client: 01002637BD5A09, 172.16.2.69 May 2 23:51:20 gremlin in.dhcpd[1961]: [ID 130413 daemon.info] Client: 01002637BD5A09 maps to IP: 172.16.2.69 On 5/2/2013 7:24 PM, Blaster wrote: > hello, > > CoronaP3 > 4_2_77_2009.10.19.17.01 > > 2009? Guessing pretty old :) How come SRS5.0 or the Operating system > 11.1 doesn't seem to have the latest available firmware? Or are these > no longer supported? > > I will dig around and see if I can find something newer... > > > > On 5/2/2013 1:41 AM, Kent Peacock wrote: >> What firmware is running on the 150s? >> >> Kent >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On May 1, 2013, at 22:32, Blaster <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> hello, >>> >>> I'm running Sun Ray Software 5.4.0.0.44 Sun Ray Operating Software >>> 11.1.1.0.06 on Solaris X64 11.1 using SunRay 150 terminals. >>> >>> Are these terminals still usable? I see there is no longer any >>> firmware for them in the 11.1.1.0.06 software. >>> >>> My problem is, the 150 boots up, I get a login window. I enter a >>> userid then a password, then I just get an hour glass with a 26D >>> error box that never goes away. >>> >>> What am I missing? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SunRay-Users mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SunRay-Users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > SunRay-Users mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.filibeto.org/mailman/listinfo/sunray-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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