Is there a slightly older smaller version of the ROMs that you could 
flash into place. I have a nearly identical card with the same boot 
problem, but I have no patience. The difference is that the chip is 
double the capacity that you have. Here's what's written:

(ST logo)
M28F512
-15C1
V58AA9622A
HONG KONG

I have no use for this card anymore and would be willing to get rid of 
it dirt cheap. (hell, I only paid $10 for it)

On Tuesday, August 13, 2002, at 11:02  PM, Bolton Peck wrote:

>
>
> Jeff Walther wrote:
>
>> At 18:26 -0700 08/13/2002, Bolton Peck wrote:
>>
>>> Here's all the numbers from the flash ROM, or at least I think
>>> that's what it is.
>>> I have a socket that would fit it (it is, of course, soldered SMT to
>>> the board) so
>>> could theoretically change it.
>>>
>>> M28F256
>>>   -15C1
>>> V58MA9722A
>>> HONG KONG
>>>
>>> I presume this means its a 256K rom?  And would that be bits or bytes?
>>
>> Bits.  Memory chips' capacities are specified in bits.  I'm not sure
>> which manufacturer M indicates.  I think Macronix is MX.  Maybe M is
>> Mitsubishi.  Oh, I bet it's ST Micro.   The 28 is usually for an
>> EEPROM, though sometimes it's Flash.   29 is used for Flash memory as
>> well as 49.   27 for EPROMs (often have a little window in teh top
>> for UV erasing).  ROMs seem to use X3 where I've seen X as 5 or 2.
>> The F usually goes with 5V parts.  The 256 means 256 Kbits.   So
>> about 32 KB.   You'd have to get a data sheet to figure whether its
>> X8 or X16 (inputs and outputs 8 or 16 bits at a time) though you can
>> often tell by the number of pins.
>>
>>> Thats all the info I have on hand, unfortunately Matrox isn't exactly 
>>> going to
>>> tell you how to get out of paying twice as much for what is 
>>> essentially an
>>> identical card with a nickel more ROM chip on it.
>>
>> On Ebay under Business and Industrial/Electronic Components/ICs you
>> can often find Flash and EEPROM chips at pretty good prices.  I've
>> been checking every so often and stocking sizes that might be handy.
>> I'm still waiting for a nice deal on 8 Mb 3.3V Flash in a 44 pin
>> SOIC...
>>
>> Anyway, if the only difference is the capacity of the Flash, you may
>> just be able to get the M or AT or MX or AM28F512 in the same package
>> and install it and then flash it.  However, switching manufacturer
>> may mean that you've switched some of the finer details of the
>> internal workigns of the chip, so it may not work.
>>
>> Jeff Walther
>
> Well, it sounds like I could replace the chip.  It is an ST Micro chip, 
> but this
> card isn't that nice.  It would take me hours to unsolder it and stick 
> the new one
> on.  I don't own any SMT solder equijpment either.  SO I think I'll 
> just trade it
> back in to where I bought it, towards something more useful.  Otherwise 
> I'd have
> to go out, find the chip, have it soldered on-I'd rather do this 
> experiment  on a
> card with some modern 3D acceleration.
>
> Wwuld the 'tome viewer' program be able to look into the file?  It 
> supports a
> bunch of cards, maybe the extraneous data could be taken out so it'd 
> fit on the
> smaller ROM.  I"ll try that.
>
> Thanks for the great responses, though.  I really appreciate the time 
> and
> information that's been sent to the list :-)
>
> Bolton


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