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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:35:28 To: <[email protected]> Subject: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 45, Issue 37 Send support-seamonkey mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of support-seamonkey digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: SSL protocol disabled in 1.1.18 Linux - intermittently (Robert Kaiser) 2. Me <[email protected]> (Stanimir Stamenkov) 3. Re: Me <stamenkov at gmail dot com> (Stanimir Stamenkov) 4. Re: Facebook problems (George Carden) 5. Re: Facebook problems (Stanimir Stamenkov) 6. 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't mark it as "read" (Bob Fleischer) 7. Re: IE not working ! :-) (JeffM) 8. Re: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't mark it as "read" (Gerald Ross) 9. Re: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't mark it as "read" (Bob Fleischer) 10. Re: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't mark it as "read" (Jens Hatlak) 11. Re: Facebook problems (George Carden) 12. Re: IE not working ! :-) (Paul B. Gallagher) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:57:43 +0200 From: Robert Kaiser <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: SSL protocol disabled in 1.1.18 Linux - intermittently Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Ant wrote: > On 9/15/2009 7:38 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed: > >>> I don't use Ubuntu. I use raw Debian. >> >> And I heard report of this problem from other distros as well, e.g. >> openSUSE 11.0. > > So basically, all UNIX and Linux? Nothing in Mac OS X and Windows? Right. >> As we're using the same NSS in 1.1.18 as in 2.0b2, and apparently >> 2.0b2 doesn't have that problem on the same machines, it looks very >> much like the problem isn't even NSS itself, but how we actually load it. >> If I just would understand any of that code... > > Same here. I am just a QA tester. :D According to the bug, it might be worth to set a https:// page as your start page and see if that makes the problem go away. If that works, we at least start to have a clue what's up. Robert Kaiser ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:41:28 +0300 From: Stanimir Stamenkov <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Me <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed npoba ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:50:47 +0300 From: Stanimir Stamenkov <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Me <stamenkov at gmail dot com> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Please ignore the original message. I've sent it to the group by accident. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500 From: George Carden <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Facebook problems Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ken Rudolph wrote: > Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the "What's on your > mind" box on Facebook (but not the "comment" box where it works fine), > the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few > lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if > I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems > with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening > the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this > problem? > > --Ken Rudolph Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. -George ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:04:55 +0300 From: Stanimir Stamenkov <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Facebook problems Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/: > Ken Rudolph wrote: > >> Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the "What's on your >> mind" box on Facebook (but not the "comment" box where it works fine), >> the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few >> lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And >> if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no >> problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started >> happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else >> having this problem? > > Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the <about:config> page), for example: general.useragent.extra.spoofox with value of: Firefox/2.0.0.24 -- Stanimir ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:33:32 -0400 From: Bob Fleischer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't mark it as "read" Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Using SeaMonkey 2.0b2 on Vista: reading sequentially through unread emails in a folder (or news items in a newsgroup) using a separate message window doesn't mark the subsequent messages as "read". Bob ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:34:42 -0700 (PDT) From: JeffM <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IE not working ! :-) Message-ID: <da63d92f-5abd-473e-aee5-68043ab6f...@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >JeffM wrote: > > I would say the Gecko philosophy is > > "Don't interpolate; render what exists." > > > > Another way to say it might be > > "We're skilled developers; we expect the site builders to be that > > too." > > > > Know how you can tell a crap Web Design book? > > It doesn't mention the W3C Validator in the first few pages. >> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >[...]for real-world users this comes across as >uncooperative at best and dysfunctional at worst. > ...and, again, Microsoft is allowed to cloud the picture. >It reminds me of a conversation where someone asks, >"Do you know the way to San Jose?" > What if he asked "oD yuo kwno teh awy ot anS Jseo?" ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:40:02 -0400 From: Gerald Ross <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't mark it as "read" Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Bob Fleischer wrote: > Using SeaMonkey 2.0b2 on Vista: reading sequentially through unread > emails in a folder (or news items in a newsgroup) using a separate > message window doesn't mark the subsequent messages as "read". > > Bob Same on XP. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA How long a minute is depends on which side of the bathroom door you're on. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:50:20 -0400 From: Bob Fleischer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't mark it as "read" Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Other things fail on the subsequent messages (but not the first). For example, if images are blocked, one cannot show them. Bob Gerald Ross wrote: > Bob Fleischer wrote: >> Using SeaMonkey 2.0b2 on Vista: reading sequentially through unread >> emails in a folder (or news items in a newsgroup) using a separate >> message window doesn't mark the subsequent messages as "read". >> >> Bob > Same on XP. > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:07:56 +0200 From: Jens Hatlak <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't mark it as "read" Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 9/15/2009 11:33 PM Bob Fleischer wrote: > Using SeaMonkey 2.0b2 on Vista: reading sequentially through unread > emails in a folder (or news items in a newsgroup) using a separate > message window doesn't mark the subsequent messages as "read". Known: <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514876> HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak <http://jens.hatlak.de/> SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker <http://smtt.blogspot.com/> ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:42:45 -0500 From: George Carden <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Facebook problems Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: > Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/: >> Ken Rudolph wrote: >> >>> Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the "What's on your >>> mind" box on Facebook (but not the "comment" box where it works >>> fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down >>> a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with >>> Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't >>> happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has >>> only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? >>> Anybody else having this problem? >> >> Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix. > > Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the > <about:config> page), for example: > > general.useragent.extra.spoofox > > with value of: > > Firefox/2.0.0.24 > Stan! That worked! Thanks so much. -George ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:54:37 -0400 From: "Paul B. Gallagher" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IE not working ! :-) Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed JeffM wrote: >> JeffM wrote: >>> I would say the Gecko philosophy is >>> "Don't interpolate; render what exists." >>> >>> Another way to say it might be >>> "We're skilled developers; we expect the site builders to be that >>> too." >>> >>> Know how you can tell a crap Web Design book? >>> It doesn't mention the W3C Validator in the first few pages. >>> > Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >> [...]for real-world users this comes across as >> uncooperative at best and dysfunctional at worst. >> > ...and, again, Microsoft is allowed to cloud the picture. This isn't about Microsoft. It's about whether Mozilla develops a reputation among end users for offering a convenient and efficient way of viewing web pages. If end users feel deprived by our holier-than-thou browser, they will avoid it. In a world where some browsers display all the pages and some do not, they blame the browser, not the webmaster. That's /our/ policy hurting /our/ reputation. I happen to like the browser, for a variety of reasons (I've been here since Netscape 4), but this is a weak point. Here's another way of putting it: does your first baseman catch only the balls thrown right at him, or does he make all your infielders better by rescuing their errors? Sure, I'd love to have perfect infielders, but not many teams do, and winning teams have first basemen that help. >> It reminds me of a conversation where someone asks, >> "Do you know the way to San Jose?" >> > What if he asked "oD yuo kwno teh awy ot anS Jseo?" I would still know what he wanted, and be able to answer, but I wouldn't enjoy a steady diet of that. On the other hand, software isn't subject to such emotions; it does whatever the programmers tell it to do without complaining. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey End of support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 45, Issue 37 ************************************************* _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
