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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:35:28
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: SSL protocol disabled in 1.1.18 Linux - intermittently
(Robert Kaiser)
2. Me <stamen...@gmail.com> (Stanimir Stamenkov)
3. Re: Me <stamenkov at gmail dot com> (Stanimir Stamenkov)
4. Re: Facebook problems (George Carden)
5. Re: Facebook problems (Stanimir Stamenkov)
6. 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't mark
it as "read" (Bob Fleischer)
7. Re: IE not working ! :-) (JeffM)
8. Re: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't
mark it as "read" (Gerald Ross)
9. Re: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't
mark it as "read" (Bob Fleischer)
10. Re: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't
mark it as "read" (Jens Hatlak)
11. Re: Facebook problems (George Carden)
12. Re: IE not working ! :-) (Paul B. Gallagher)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:57:43 +0200
From: Robert Kaiser <ka...@kairo.at>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: SSL protocol disabled in 1.1.18 Linux - intermittently
Message-ID: <qv2dnsz3ydw6fjlxnz2dnuvz_qkdn...@mozilla.org>
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Ant wrote:
> On 9/15/2009 7:38 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed:
>
>>> I don't use Ubuntu. I use raw Debian.
>>
>> And I heard report of this problem from other distros as well, e.g.
>> openSUSE 11.0.
>
> So basically, all UNIX and Linux? Nothing in Mac OS X and Windows?
Right.
>> As we're using the same NSS in 1.1.18 as in 2.0b2, and apparently
>> 2.0b2 doesn't have that problem on the same machines, it looks very
>> much like the problem isn't even NSS itself, but how we actually load it.
>> If I just would understand any of that code...
>
> Same here. I am just a QA tester. :D
According to the bug, it might be worth to set a https:// page as your
start page and see if that makes the problem go away. If that works, we
at least start to have a clue what's up.
Robert Kaiser
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:41:28 +0300
From: Stanimir Stamenkov <s7a...@netscape.net>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Me <stamen...@gmail.com>
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npoba
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:50:47 +0300
From: Stanimir Stamenkov <s7a...@netscape.net>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Me <stamenkov at gmail dot com>
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Please ignore the original message. I've sent it to the group by
accident.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500
From: George Carden <cardboa...@comcast.net>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Facebook problems
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Ken Rudolph wrote:
> Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the "What's on your
> mind" box on Facebook (but not the "comment" box where it works fine),
> the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few
> lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And if
> I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no problems
> with typing entry in either browser. This has only started happening
> the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else having this
> problem?
>
> --Ken Rudolph
Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix.
-George
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:04:55 +0300
From: Stanimir Stamenkov <s7a...@netscape.net>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Facebook problems
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Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/:
> Ken Rudolph wrote:
>
>> Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the "What's on your
>> mind" box on Facebook (but not the "comment" box where it works fine),
>> the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down a few
>> lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with Firefox. And
>> if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't happen, no
>> problems with typing entry in either browser. This has only started
>> happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this? Anybody else
>> having this problem?
>
> Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix.
Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the
<about:config> page), for example:
general.useragent.extra.spoofox
with value of:
Firefox/2.0.0.24
--
Stanimir
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:33:32 -0400
From: Bob Fleischer <bobnos...@nospamduxsys.com>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't mark
it as "read"
Message-ID: <08odnvf0ej6xls3xnz2dnuvz_u6dn...@mozilla.org>
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Using SeaMonkey 2.0b2 on Vista: reading sequentially through unread
emails in a folder (or news items in a newsgroup) using a separate
message window doesn't mark the subsequent messages as "read".
Bob
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:34:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: JeffM <jef...@email.com>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: IE not working ! :-)
Message-ID:
<da63d92f-5abd-473e-aee5-68043ab6f...@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
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>JeffM wrote:
> > I would say the Gecko philosophy is
> > "Don't interpolate; render what exists."
> >
> > Another way to say it might be
> > "We're skilled developers; we expect the site builders to be that
> > too."
> >
> > Know how you can tell a crap Web Design book?
> > It doesn't mention the W3C Validator in the first few pages.
>>
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>[...]for real-world users this comes across as
>uncooperative at best and dysfunctional at worst.
>
...and, again, Microsoft is allowed to cloud the picture.
>It reminds me of a conversation where someone asks,
>"Do you know the way to San Jose?"
>
What if he asked "oD yuo kwno teh awy ot anS Jseo?"
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:40:02 -0400
From: Gerald Ross <g...@comsouth.net>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't
mark it as "read"
Message-ID: <t6cdnbzgzm42lc3xnz2dnuvz_uqdn...@mozilla.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Bob Fleischer wrote:
> Using SeaMonkey 2.0b2 on Vista: reading sequentially through unread
> emails in a folder (or news items in a newsgroup) using a separate
> message window doesn't mark the subsequent messages as "read".
>
> Bob
Same on XP.
--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA
How long a minute is depends on which
side of the bathroom door you're on.
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:50:20 -0400
From: Bob Fleischer <bobnos...@nospamduxsys.com>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't
mark it as "read"
Message-ID: <0igdnbd6ct-bks3xnz2dnuvz_gwdn...@mozilla.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Other things fail on the subsequent messages (but not the first). For
example, if images are blocked, one cannot show them.
Bob
Gerald Ross wrote:
> Bob Fleischer wrote:
>> Using SeaMonkey 2.0b2 on Vista: reading sequentially through unread
>> emails in a folder (or news items in a newsgroup) using a separate
>> message window doesn't mark the subsequent messages as "read".
>>
>> Bob
> Same on XP.
>
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:07:56 +0200
From: Jens Hatlak <j...@junetz.de>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: 2.0b2: reading next message in separate window doesn't
mark it as "read"
Message-ID: <zzudnqjn-47ajs3xnz2dnuvz_hni4...@mozilla.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 9/15/2009 11:33 PM Bob Fleischer wrote:
> Using SeaMonkey 2.0b2 on Vista: reading sequentially through unread
> emails in a folder (or news items in a newsgroup) using a separate
> message window doesn't mark the subsequent messages as "read".
Known:
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514876>
HTH
Jens
--
Jens Hatlak <http://jens.hatlak.de/>
SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker <http://smtt.blogspot.com/>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:42:45 -0500
From: George Carden <cardboa...@comcast.net>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Facebook problems
Message-ID: <fakdnugsioedhs3xnz2dnuvz_sadn...@mozilla.org>
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Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:56:42 -0500, /George Carden/:
>> Ken Rudolph wrote:
>>
>>> Using Seamonkey 1.1.18, W-XP, when I try to use the "What's on your
>>> mind" box on Facebook (but not the "comment" box where it works
>>> fine), the box doesn't take any typing. Instead the page skips down
>>> a few lines, but no typing appears. This doesn't happen with
>>> Firefox. And if I click on the IE tab add-on to SM it also doesn't
>>> happen, no problems with typing entry in either browser. This has
>>> only started happening the past couple of days. Any fix for this?
>>> Anybody else having this problem?
>>
>> Same here, Ken! I thought it was just me. No idea about a fix.
>
> Try spoofing as Firefox. Create a string preference (on the
> <about:config> page), for example:
>
> general.useragent.extra.spoofox
>
> with value of:
>
> Firefox/2.0.0.24
>
Stan! That worked! Thanks so much.
-George
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:54:37 -0400
From: "Paul B. Gallagher" <pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com>
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: IE not working ! :-)
Message-ID: <nkodnr6mqbtbtc3xnz2dnuvz_u2dn...@mozilla.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
JeffM wrote:
>> JeffM wrote:
>>> I would say the Gecko philosophy is
>>> "Don't interpolate; render what exists."
>>>
>>> Another way to say it might be
>>> "We're skilled developers; we expect the site builders to be that
>>> too."
>>>
>>> Know how you can tell a crap Web Design book?
>>> It doesn't mention the W3C Validator in the first few pages.
>>>
> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> [...]for real-world users this comes across as
>> uncooperative at best and dysfunctional at worst.
>>
> ...and, again, Microsoft is allowed to cloud the picture.
This isn't about Microsoft. It's about whether Mozilla develops a
reputation among end users for offering a convenient and efficient way
of viewing web pages. If end users feel deprived by our holier-than-thou
browser, they will avoid it. In a world where some browsers display all
the pages and some do not, they blame the browser, not the webmaster.
That's /our/ policy hurting /our/ reputation.
I happen to like the browser, for a variety of reasons (I've been here
since Netscape 4), but this is a weak point. Here's another way of
putting it: does your first baseman catch only the balls thrown right at
him, or does he make all your infielders better by rescuing their
errors? Sure, I'd love to have perfect infielders, but not many teams
do, and winning teams have first basemen that help.
>> It reminds me of a conversation where someone asks,
>> "Do you know the way to San Jose?"
>>
> What if he asked "oD yuo kwno teh awy ot anS Jseo?"
I would still know what he wanted, and be able to answer, but I wouldn't
enjoy a steady diet of that. On the other hand, software isn't subject
to such emotions; it does whatever the programmers tell it to do without
complaining.
--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher
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