Hi Mark and Arne

Mark Hansen wrote:
On 1/19/2010 6:40 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Mark Hansen wrote:
On 1/11/2010 8:10 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Arne wrote:

Mark Hansen wrote:
On 1/11/2010 3:41 AM, Arne wrote:
I would like to know what the difference is between "Sort by: Date"
and "Sort by: Received"?
Do you mean "Sort by: Order Received"? That is the date/time the message
showed up on your doorstep, regardless of the date shown in the Date
header of the message. These can be different.
No, I don't mean "Sort by: Order Received". As I wrote, I can see what
happen with that sort order. But I can't see what happen with the
"plain" Received sorting that is different from sorting by Date.
OK, here's a theory:

If you look at a message header, you'll see that it contains Date: and
Received: fields. The Date: field is the date attached by the sending
computer, which may or may not be accurate. The Received: fields are
attached by the various servers that handle the message en route.

So if you sort by Date:, you're sorting by when the sender's computer
thought it sent it, and if you sort by Received:, you're sorting by when
one of the mail servers thought it got it. Could be as much as several
days apart.

How do you sort by "Received". I don't have that option. In my SeaMonkey,
I have no such option. I do have Sort by "Order Received". Is that what
you're talking about. I've found that is set to the time the message is
placed in the mail folder.

For example, if I get three messages: A, B and C - in that order, then
move them into another mail folder in this order: First B, then A, then C,
and the other mail folder is set to display in the Order Received, the
messages are display in this order: B, A, C.

As far as I can see, it's not using the dates in the received headers at
all.

Perhaps this changed for SM 2.x. This is how it's always worked for me
in SeaMonkey 1.1.X (and I'm pretty sure earlier Mozilla products as
well).
Well, I'm in the same boat as you -- my SM 1.1.16 only offers "Order
received," and I have no idea how it would calculate that, since the
message header doesn't contain that info. Does SM somehow mark each
message with a date/time stamp of its own???
Based on my experience (described above) it keeps track of the date/time
the message was placed into the mail folder. This is the order the message
was received by the mail folder.

I can sort by the sender's date, of course, that's trivial.

My fallback theory is that some programmer devised a bad name for
something, and he probably means something else.

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Actually the time date stamp is add by the sending computer, as you can see this email has a time date stamp of a year ago to the minute and that's because I rolled back my computer time just to show how it works.


--
Big Bill


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