On 20.09.2010 13:02, Phillip Jones wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 20.09.2010 10:42, Phillip Jones wrote:
>>
>>   --- Original Message ---
>>
>>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>>> Philip Chee wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:20:48 -0400, Phillip Jones wrote:
>>>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is not true, please stop spreading misinformation.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never seen a case where developers corrected a bug a user found.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are not looking hard enough. Look harder. I fixed the following
>>>>> bugs:
>>>>>
>>>>> Bug 86400  reported by David Carroll
>>>>> Bug 156734 reported by Jeremy M. Dolan
>>>>> Bug 388349 reported by Ed
>>>>> Bug 395371 reported by arno renevier
>>>>> Bug 414014 reported by Eyal Rozenberg
>>>>> Bug 482433 reported by Chris Wimlett
>>>>> Bug 534248 reported by Aleksej
>>>>> Bug 534322 reported by Kevin Brosnan
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I fixed more but I got bored searching through bugzilla.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could you fix this
>>>>     https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218258
>>>>     https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595696
>>>>
>>>>     or tell me how can i fix it
>>>
>>> In reading the first bug from one end proves exactly my point that
>>> developers believe that users can't know what they want, that only
>>> developers know what users want. And tend to ignore users wishes.
>>>
>>
>> Do you know what a RFE bug is and where they sit on the priority list?
>>
> 
> Yes I know what Referral For Enhancement is:
> 
> But did you see all the arguments against the suggestion?
> 
> with all the arrangements against. there was no chance it would even
> been looked at.
> 
> You can actually tell what will get fixed or added just by comments. If
> there are no comments with a week. or if the vast majority of comments
> are negative. nothing will be fixed
> 
> Go look at bugs That have no comments, and those that have mostly
> negative comments. Now see one with good comment as majority and see for
> yourself which have been fixed or are being worked on.
> 

What do you think is the ratio of RFE's that are implemented to the bugs
that are fixed? Taking that list that I posted the link to, how many of
those FIXED bugs are RFE's? None?  What do you think is the reason?
Could the answer be that real BUGS are a lot more important than a
wish-list?

In fact, a very recent request/wish was made by Timo P in the
.devs.thunderbird group. It's being discussed and attended to quite
handily and may show up in the next release. Timo is making suggestions
and the devs are listening. BTW, Timo is a "user".

-- 
*Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion*
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