Justin, your answers are always helpful, constructive and non-confrontational : please accept my replies (below) in the same vein --
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: > > In our case, you can easily tell that it is a real, "chrome" window, and not > some Virus. How ? I know only too many people who have believed a virtually identical popup that tells them that their computer is infected, and that in order to remove the infections they must "Click here" to initiate the removal process. > > It is a genuine message, and is worded this way in direct thoughtful > expression. It is the message that Firefox also uses for 3.5.x->future > version upgrades as well, fwiw. I suspected that that was the case : in general, Seamonkey developers are less given to hyperbole. > > I'd argue that the attempt to scare a user into upgraded resembles trojan > stuff, but it is easily distinguished by those who know to watch for those > types of trojans, "Easily distinguished", Justin ? I could not tell whether it was genuine or not, and I suspect I am not atypical in this respect. > Actually it is NOT misleading. I'm sorry, here I completely disagree. Let me play back to you the exact wording : > Your version of SeaMonkey is no > longer protected against online > attacks. "No longer protected" ? That is as clear an exploitation of FUD as I have ever seen. Seamonkey 2.0.14 is /just/ as well protected as it was on the day that it was released; Seamonkey 2.3.3 may well be /better/ protected, but that is not in dispute. If this were an advertisement rather than a well-intentioned but severely misjudged attempt to help Seamonkey users, then I have no doubt at all that the Advertising Standards Authority would rule that it was intentionally misleading and insist it be withdrawn. > SeaMonkey 2.0.14 is VULNERABLE to web attacks/exploits, including ones > actively being exploited as we speak. I did not suggest otherwise. But it was just as vulnerable on the day that it was released, and to suggest otherwise is grossly irresponsible. > > No. That is overly wordy for what we have to work with, we should not expect > users to have to load the website directly for this, since our upgrade > service provides certificate checks that are not easily available through > website downloads. We also have limited space to work with in our update > dialog, and your wording implies that users are "OK" on 2.0.14, THEY ARE NOT. It if is too prolix, then feel free to trim it back, but please Please PLEASE stop telling people that Seamonkey 2.0.14 is "no longer protected"; that is totally misleading, and intentionally so. Its protection has not changed one iota, but later versions are better protected -- THAT is the key point at issue, and the one that the popup should make plain. Philip Taylor _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
