Edmund wrote:
Dustbin wrote:
It should not be necessary to spoof firefox.

If people wrote their code to work to TCP/IP standard protocols SM would
work.

Do you mean putting FireFox in the UA string? If so, that has (AFAIU)
nothing to do with the TCP/IP standard protocols, but the way the
website detects browsers and adapts the website to the user
depending on the UA.

Since (AFAIK) most sites cater to IE, Chrome and Firefox, they care
only about those browsers.  Even though SeaMonkey also uses the same
engine as FireFox, our users don't get the same treatment as
FireFox users.  If the websites detect the engine instead of the
browser string, it would make it simple and we can just use
SeaMonkey in the UA.

If I've erred..  any corrections appreciated.

It is not that you have erred it is that they should not be abusing the system's facilities to engineer code for a limited number of browsers. The code should work equally on all browsers. That is the point of standards. Writing code with a preference for one or two browsers is wrong.

It is notable that Netscape/Mozilla/SeaMonkey has been around since the dawn of HTTP and, therefore, is one of the earliest browsers; yet coders are favouring far more recent browsers such as FireFox and Chrome.

As an erstwhile engineer I favour standards. The usual problem is having too many of them; but in this case that is not true; there is one standard for internet transfers (TCP/IP) and one for coding HTTP pages (W3C). There are issues such as screen width and fixing the relation of parts of the output to each other. Some of these can be got round. Other leaves parts of the display off the screen. I have had 1600 pixel width for many years but others may not. I generally set my pages to 1200 pixel width - which could cause some people a problem.

There are other issues as well, of course, but I still favour observing standards rather than causing more problems by complicating matters. For example I used to get a message bar across the top of the screen from tripadvisor saying that they do not support my browser - it's not there with SM2.6 so perhaps the FireFox spoofing is fooling tripadvisor into shutting up and putting up ;-).

D.


Edmund

Edmund

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