On 5/23/2013 5:34 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Desiree wrote:
I don't have Flash installed on Fx or SeaMonkey because I hate the 2
Flash plugins that will not shut off in Task Manager once I am
finished with a Flash page. Those plugins eat a lot of RAM even when
Flash is not being used.
Just out of curiosity, how much is "a lot of RAM"? And what are the
processes called? I don't see your point.
As an experiment, I closed SM and relaunched it (I have it set to start
with the mail window only). The SM process started at 174 MB, and rose
quickly to 205 MB. I launched a 4-minute YouTube video, which spawned a
plugin container that started at 54 MB and plateaued at 59. When I
closed the browser window, the plugin container shrank to 10 MB, and the
SM process was at 207 MB. I repeated the cycle: launched a browser
window, played a video, terminated it. As before, the plugin container
peaked at just under 60 MB, and the SM process grew to 213 MB, but they
fell back to 204 and 10 when I terminated the browser window.
I've seen the SM process as high as 400 MB, but it drops right back if I
clear the cache.
If I want to, I can force-close the plugin container in Task Manager,
but why bother? On a machine with 8 GB of RAM, 10 MB more or less is
chicken feed. It would cost me more in labor to terminate the process
than I would gain in improved performance.
I suppose it's inelegant that the plugin container doesn't quite close.
But perhaps it relaunches more quickly like the old-style TSRs than if
it closed completely. I don't know, I can't tell the difference.
I don 't recall the name of the two Flash plugin processes as it has
been awhile since I uninstalled Flash for non-Active X browsers.
I don't like unnecessary processes of any sort running in Task Manager.
I used Black Viper's site when I got this Win 8 Pro machine to clean up
the crap on it. Dell didn't install an AV program or other obvious
crapware like they have with earlier OSes. But geez...there was a lot of
processes starting at boot that either could be on manual start or
disabled entirely.
I have 16GB RAM and the machine was using almost 30% RAM with just one
browser running. It was the ton of other stuff (not the browser) that
was using all that RAM. But the two plugin container services were
eating some of the RAM all the time. I got RAM usage at boot, with Fx or
SM started (and about 40-50 tabs), down to 12%. It was a lot of hard
work to accomplish this.
I prefer watching youtube videos in HTML5 HD at 720p or 1080i not in
Flash Player. On IE 10 all I need to do to get youtube to automatically
play the videos in HTML5 is disable Flash in IE Manage Addons. But on Fx
and SM, disabling Flash is not enough as youtube will just tell you that
you need Flash Player to view the video. But if you uninstall Flash then
Fx and SM (not Opera though) will play the videos automatically in HTML5
HD and you do not need to be enrolled in the Youtube HTML5 trial. Of
course, this does depend on youtube whim and a few days ago nothing at
youtube would play in HTML5 on any browser...but that only lasted about
48 hours and then all the videos started playing in HTML5 HD again.
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