On 10/3/13 4:57 AM, Desiree wrote:
> On XP Pro, that stupid Flash plugin container tried to start as Sea Monkey 
> 2.21 was starting! It should not start unless I decide to start Flash Player 
> which is controlled by a toggle switch and can't start until I give 
> permission. Plus, none of the tabs that were loading have any Flash Player 
> video on them and the Proxomitron blocks all ads that might use Flash.  So, 
> I told Process Guard to deny Flash Plugin container from running. I've never 
> had a problem doing that in the past but I guess 2.21 won't allow one to 
> control Flash Player as when I did that Sea Monkey froze and then crashed.
> 
> I tried starting it in Safe Mode and same thing, it is not allowed to load 
> Flash Plugin container so it freezes and crashes.  I thought Safe Mode 
> disabled plugins? Evidently not...so what is the purpose of Safe Mode?
> 
> I updated Flash Player recently and for some stupid reason that activates it 
> on Fx and SeaMonkey disregarding my plugin settings where I had it disabled. 
> If I disable it then SeaMonkey should not crash because Flash plugin 
> container two processes won't try to load.  So, if I can start SeaMonkey 
> offline would that work so I could disable Flash plugin?
> 
> (The real problem is that no browser should automatically grab a plugin. I 
> remember when they did not and they still should not do that). 

Windows XP Home Edition SP3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.21
Flash 11.7.700.224 (11.7 r700(224))

I used Ctrl-Alt-Del to view the Windows Task Manager.  While
plugin-container.exe appeared, it was not consuming any CPU resources,
only memory.  Note that plugin-container.exe is also used for plugins
other than Flash.

Safe Mode only disables extensions, not plug-ins.  I think it was a very
bad decision when the Mozilla developers started referring to "add-ons"
as including both; this has led to extreme confusion among end users.

I control Flash with the Flashblock extension from
<http://flashblock.mozdev.org/>.

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