»Q« wrote:
In <news:[email protected]>,
Rufus <[email protected]> wrote:
»Q« wrote:
In <news:[email protected]>,
Rufus <[email protected]> wrote:
[about communication wrt level of support for different platforms]
Be professional. That's all I really want.
Clearly, you have a vision of a much more "professional" SeaMonkey
organization. But IME, telling a community of F/LOSS volunteers
what they should do, without doing any of it yourself, is a lot
like farting in the wind. Maybe you could open a dialog with the
people who build the releases and type up what you learn about
multi-platform support in a clear, "professional" manner?
Anyone that posts feedback is a "volunteer". We all do it.
Sure.
If one wants to get paid, one should get a paying job. Otherwise, if
you're doing it for the sheer love of doing it, then do the best you
can and stop whining about being a "volunteer".
You can do better than that; you can killfile people telling you how
you should conduct your volunteer work without volunteering any effort
(other than typing "feedback") of their own.
You posted feedback suggesting that the SM devs should do something,
and I posted feedback suggesting that you should do something.
Apparently, no one's about to say "that guy's right!" and get to work on
either of our suggestions. And that's because that's not how anything
gets done in F/LOSS projects, which was my point in the first place.
I did volunteer my efforts...only to find out that there is such
disarray on the "team" that the "team" was not worth my time.
I do write and maintain very detailed UE bug reports...or I did, in the
beginning. The developers asked for someone to do that, for someone
with UE experience...which I do professionally. But apparently,
"volunteers" don't like hearing negative user feedback...which is *all*
they are going to hear if they are actually interested in UE
improvements (which I still see very little attention paid to).
So...rather than whining about not "getting paid", I quit trying to be
formally involved because it was pretty clear that nothing was going to
get done or fixed based on anything I had to offer.
I don't care about any project being F/LOSS, "volunteer", or
whatever...leaning on that only sounds like an excuse. It's not a valid
reason for inaction or non-responsiveness. Every time I hear this it
comes across as "we don't really *care* what we are doing". Which I
don't believe either. At least I'd like to not believe that.
I'd rather hear there isn't time, or there isn't expertise, or there
isn't a way to do whatever, or mother Moz is stopping us...we're all
geeks here, speak geek, and let us listen to that.
--
- Rufus
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