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Rodney Sampson wrote:
All:
    Can I re-install SM 2.33.1 over current install without de-install,
or do I need to
      de-install / re-install ?
   And do you think it might help given the errors below ?

My experience is that uninstall/reinstall probably won't do anything, unless you have reason to believe that there is corruption in either the program binaries or Windows registry. Normally, if you uninstall, your user profiles are not removed, and I think that chances are high that you'll still be seeing problems.

The most frequent source of performance issues with Mozilla apps tends to be related to user profiles, and for that, Safe Mode or a new profile are a good test. From previous postings you've made, I believe you've tried Safe Mode. If you haven't seen results there, then that would probably eliminate the common problems of either misbehaving extensions and/or things from odd settings in your prefs.js file.

Have you tried Safe Mode on all your profiles? Safe Mode or not, are there any profiles that behave better than others?

If you haven't done so already, I would suggest to see what kind of performance you get off a newly-created profile. If performance issues aren't there, then it's likely that there's something relating to your data, especially if you have large mail stores. If you still have performance issues, then that's indicative of something system-related, that's not Seamonkey.

If you have system-related stuff, then you're looking at things such as drivers, or disk integrity questions, and from quotes of previous conversation, I see that you've spent time looking at those. One other thing -- how are you on disk space usage? Assuming that you're using a traditional hard drive, if it's more than half full, you will start seeing performance slowdowns for anything on your computer, and if the disk is at more than 75% capacity, you should consider it to be essentially "full", and there will be noticeable performance issues. Thus, if you tend to be a "pack rat" sort that saves everything, then you may need to make a choice between moving or deleting some of what you have saved to other media, or moving to another hard drive.

There is one hardware-related thing that's worth looking at: you might want to see what happens when you turn off hardware acceleration in SeaMonkey. On my own setup, a number of years ago, I was having problems with odd display of fonts, and disabling acceleration, fixed the problem, with no other apparent performance issues. More recently, with the release of Thunderbird 38.0.1, I've seen a number of reports of people experiencing speed or stability issues, and for many of those, disabling acceleration seems to have resolved those problems. Doing this may or may not do anything for you, but it's worth a try.


Reading between the lines, my suspicion is that where you're having problems is coming from the mail side. If you normally use POP, and have multi-GB mail stores, that might be the place to look.

Several things I suggest:

1) In the folders pane in the mail client, enable the display that allows you to see not only the number of new messages, but the total number of messages, and the size of your folders. Click on the icon at the top of the pane's scroll bar, to select all three.

2) Pare down the size of large folders, especially Inbox, Sent Mail and Trash. There is debate about performance issues relating to large folders-- some are insistent that folders should be kept small, and others report very large folders, with no performance issues, at all. My own experience indicates the latter, but my personal preference is for smaller folders. In any case, the pre-defined folders are not intended for long-term archival storage. (In decades past, that was probably more of an issue than it is with current systems.) If you don't normally sort messages into folders, use the capacity for Archive, which will move messages into an archive folder, and out of your pre-defined folders. In a similar way, some advocate against having sub-folders in your Inbox, although I haven't seen problems with doing that.

3) Look for messages with attachments, and consider either detaching the attachments (where the content is only on your hard drive) or deleting entirely. If you frequently send messages with attachments, it's good to get into the habit of deleting the attachment from the copy of the message that gets saved in the Sent folder. The attachment is already on your hard drive, and there's no point in taking up space in your mail store, with a duplicate copy of that content.

4) After you've deleted messages, moved to another folder, or deleted attachments, don't forget to compress the folders that have deleted content. When a message is deleted, initially, only the folder's index is updated, and deleted content is not physically removed from the underlying folder file (and on your hard drive, a folder is a MBOX-format file, not a true folder), until the folder has been compressed, and the index rebuilt.


Beyond your browser and mail client, one other suggestion -- if you're a collector of digital media (photos, downloaded videos, music, etc.) consider relocating that stuff to other media (external hard drive, DVD, etc), rather than keeping them on your primary hard drive. That content is important, but your primary hard drive is a poor place for long-term archival storage, especially for content that you don't *need* to access frequently. Yes, it's convenient to have it all in one place, but if that convenience may come at the cost making id difficult for you to actually use the computer. Remember that your operating system and your applications need working space, and if they don't have enough space, then it will make things difficult for you.


I'm not discounting the possibility that you may have hardware issues with your machine, and I'm not going to go there, but at the same time, I don't think your problems with Seamonkey are with Seamonkey itself; rather, that there may be things that require user-level tuning, and that where Seamonkey is merely the point where you're seeing the symptoms.


Smith


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