On 7/07/2015 1:49 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 09:04:30 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little"
<[email protected]> wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 08:26:19 +0200, Ray_Net
<[email protected]> wrote:

A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me here:
http://browsehappy.com/?locale=fr

Where in cannot find SeaMonkey ....

Seamonkey is not a commonly recognized browser like Firefox.


Which is a all too common web design *error* that relies on User Agent
sniffing instead of browser feature check to determine browser
compatibility.

Right but it's not the fault of Mozilla

I agree, not their problem

or web designers.

but there I disagree. It is just poor coding(ditto for programming)
practice to use NAME and not FEATURE support. Especially with FOSS where
codebase can be used in a number of very capable yet differently named
applications. Think Iceweasel, Pale Moon, Waterfox, etc.



Ask 100 random Internet users if they've used SM and then ask the
same 100 if they've used Firefox.

This situation was helped somewhat by Tools > Options > Preferences
Advanced > HTTP Network > Advertise Firefox Compatibility but most
web designers stick to the big 4: FF, IE, Safari or Chrome.

You see where that can be a problem, impracticable to list ALL capable
browsers without excluding ones that do but you just didn't list in the
UA. Much better to test the feature interface.

and, Jonathan and others, just FYI, it's my belief that if the sniffers sniffed for the term "Gecko" rather than the actual name then they would accept Firefox, SeaMonkey and Opera (and probably others), at a minimum

--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909
or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114
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