On 10/1/16, WaltS48 <[email protected]> wrote: > On 10/01/2016 07:21 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: >> On 9/30/2016 10:57 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: >>> On 9/30/2016 at 7:49 AM, Richard Owlett's prodigious digits fired off: >>>> On 9/27/2016 7:47 PM, Felix Miata wrote: >>>>> Richard Owlett composed on 2016-09-27 14:10 (UTC-0400): >>>>> >>>>>> That's an imperfect subject line to say the least. >>>>>> Does SeaMonkey have a specification more detailed than the >>>>>> "Feature List" at >>>>>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/features ? >>>>> >>>>> That list is more concerned with UI features than compatibility >>>>> with web standards. >>>>> >>>>>> The "World Wide Web Consortium" has test suites >>>>>> [http://validator.w3.org/] to demonstrate compliance of a WEB >>>>>> page with various HTML standards. >>>>> >>>>>> My interest is from a different perspective. What features of >>>>>> HTML4 and/or HTML% an SeaMonkey handle as page designer >>>>>> intended? >>>>> >>>>> Web design is comprised of three fundamental components: >>>>> >>>>> 1-Content = HTML >>>>> >>>>> 2-Appearance = CSS >>>>> >>>>> 3-Behavior = scripting (JS or JavaScript in the FOSS world of >>>>> Gecko aka >>>>> Firefox and SeaMonkey) >>>>> >>>> >>>> Is there a site that explores that for the layperson, i.e. a >>>> Pastor and Board of Deacons? >>> >>> <http://htmldog.com/> is a good place to start. >> >> For myself that is an interesting site but is not suitable for my >> intended audience. >> >> For a tenuous analogy that page covers how to raise good beef not how to >> tell what meat you wanted.
There's a reason good consultants get paid so much :) Even at an overview level for html/css/javascript, everything decent I've seen assumes a level of background knowledge that a pastor &/or board of deacons probably don't have. getting back to what you're interested in:: >>>> Had a discussion with Pastor and realized how little we both knew about >>>> planning a >>>> site. He had mentioned the inverse of your point about mobile vs computer >>>> oriented >>>> site. There was a site that looked good on his laptop but was painful to >>>> use on his >>>> smart phone. Is there a site covering that issue for lay people? Try searching on "user interface design". There's a huge difference between a large screen desktop/mouse UI and a small touch screen UI - especially how large the link area has to to be on a touch screen vs. how small the link area can be when using a mouse to click on links. If you don't want to do something like redirecting smart phone users to a 'mobile optimized' version of the site you're looking for someone with some serious knowledge of CSS & web site design. see, for example, http://sixrevisions.com/web_design/a-guide-on-layout-types-in-web-design/ and take a look at some web design/layout sites like https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/01/10-principles-of-effective-web-design/ > Are you trying to convince the holders of the purse strings to allow the > church to use funds for the church to set up a domain and hire a web > developer to design a web site? > > Show them some web sites like <http://fpcp.org/>, > <http://flcpittsburgh.org/> +1 Look for sites that you like and think about what they did right/wrong http://fpcp.org/ I have the noscript & request policy addons, so all I see is a mostly blank page with a few links and _zero_ useful information. I have to scroll down a page to see the worship & events info and scroll down yet another page to see the phone # & address. I'd suggest this is a good example of how not to do it http://www.shadysidepres.org/ Join us on Sunday for worship at 11:00 a.m., Upcoming Events, Sermons & Live Webcast, address, phone #, "New to Shadyside?" link, site map link and search field -- all on the first page; no clicking/scrolling required _and_ all that with noscript/request policy enabled. I suspect they had at least some professional help with their design & layout. After you find a few church sites you like, give them a call. They'd probably be happy to give you some tips, references, "what I wish I knew before we started this project" info, etc. Regards, Lee _______________________________________________ support-seamonkey mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
