Any suggestions on what backup software to use?

I'm using unison to backup/sync multiple PCs.  I just took a look at
the latest version & the gui version looks to be a pain to setup, so
it's probably not a good recommendation.  I remember futzing with it
for a while to get it "right".

The other method is xcopy - also not a great solution since it's got a
path [or name?] limit of something like 256 characters, so it _will_
miss stuff.  I'm looking at robocopy as a replacement...

On the other hand, other than the removable drives, the cost is 0$

On 12/22/16, NFN Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> All good stuff. A couple of additional thoughts inserted...

same here

> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> David E. Ross wrote:
>>
>>> I have files unrelated to SeaMonkey that are no less important. I
>>> do a system-wide backup every week.
>>
>> In my case, nightly (mission-critical work computer). The first week
>> I had a computer (a PC-XT in 1985), I lost a whole day's work by
>> failing to back it up. Ever since, my motto has been, "If you love
>> me, back me up."
>>
>> Some basic principles all users should follow for backup (I'm sure
>> you know this, but other readers may not):
>
> I would go one step further -- think through your potential recovery
> scenarios.

And think through your potential disaster scenarios.  That
cryptolocker malware that encrypts all your data files is scary, so I
backup to removable media.  What happens if the removable media is
lost/stolen?  Truecrypt to the rescue :)

> There's enough variants that one particular backup
> methodology or tool may not fit all the possibilities for recovery.
> There's a difference between doing a bare-metal recovery following a
> device or controller failure and a recovery from an "oops" overwrite or
> deletion of one or two critical files.

Maybe I've been lucky, but in personal use I've had only one disk
failure.  Keeping install CDs + downloaded install programs + data
files was enough to restore everything to the new hard drive.  Altho
it took~2-3 days from getting the new disk to a fully usable PC.

>> 1) Do it automatically. If you have to think about it, you'll forget
>> or make excuses, and when disaster comes you'll lose something
>> important because you didn't back it up.

+1
make it easy & make it work unattended.  I mount the truecrypt volume,
start a .bat file and go have dinner, watch a movie, go to bed, etc.

>> 2) Separate the backup media from the source computer. If the backup
>> is killed by the same disaster as the computer, you have no backup.

+1
altho do you _really_ need a full, offsite, backup?   If my PC is
melted in a fire, I care about pictures and some data.  I don't care
at all about \program files, \windows, etc. so the offsite backup data
set is _much_ smaller.

> And don't rely on a single media set that's continuously attached,

I like removable disk drives.  It's hard to f*** up a drive in my desk
drawer or @ my sister's house.

> although this works against point 1). Now that one of the varieties of
> malware that we have to account for includes ransomware, you need to
> make sure that you account for the possibility of that kind of thing
> encrypting your backups. Plus, there's always the the matter of making
> sure you have off-site backups (think: building burning down, or a
> lost/stolen laptop).
>
> A further consideration: cloud-based backups can be one way of quickly
> getting off-site, but it's one that is good not to rely on entirely.  If
> you can't get to your backups (no internet connectivity, DDoS of
> provider, provider failure, etc.) you have no backup.
>
> Years ago, I was backing up a desktop PC onto floppy disks, and I had
> the habit of using just one set of floppies, writing a new backup over
> the previous one. One time, I was doing a backup when the hard drive was
> in the process of failing, and I had a crash while I was backing up.
> Thus, the new backup set was unusable, and the old backup was no longer
> available.  Following a reboot, I was able to run a new complete backup,
> but I learned that it's important never to discard/obliterate an old
> backup, until you have a usable one to replace it with.
>
>>
>> 3) Use a system that doesn't impact your lifestyle or workstyle. If
>> it's a PITA, you'll find an excuse to abort it or cancel it, and then
>> you'll have no backup.
>>
>> 4) Test the restore function periodically. If you can't restore, you
>> have no backup.
>
> Absolutely. Think: fire drill.  Years ago, I had a major disaster when a
> server failed, and then we discovered that the controller of the backup
> device had silently failed some time previously.  We didn't have any
> backups.
>
> Keeping this on a slightly Seamonkey focus: several months ago, I was
> having problems with my inbox and indexing (which I discussed in this
> newsgroup), and more than once, I lost most of the messages in my POP
> inbox. I was grateful to have daily backups to draw from, and I needed
> them more than once.  For that, a file-centric backup (where I could
> recover just my inbox, and not even the entire profile) was what I
> needed. A full-image backup (including boot sectors and Windows
> registry) would have been far less useful for that kind of recovery.

Daily backups can be _extremely_ nice.  Like I said, I've had one hard
drive fail on me.  I've had more than one instance of ohNoes!! what
did <this> file look like <that many> days ago.

> On my own system, I do have things set to do nightly backups (and I know
> how to get to the profile data in the Windows directory hierarchy), but
> with my main Seamonkey profile, I periodically use MozBackup to make an
> extra copy. If I don't write that archive directly to my backup drive,
> it's not a problem to drop it into a folder that normally gets backed up
> as a part of the daily backup process.  However, because I do that one
> manually, it's a good example of why it's unwise to rely on backups that
> require that you run them manually.

Lee
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