On 11/11/2017 9:38 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
> 
>> I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey. Some of
>> the third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud,
>> which I feel is quite risky. Others, I am just not sure of their
>> integrity and security. Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle
>> logins with both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey
>> to store my passwords.
> 
> Doesn't really address the OP's question. He's concerned by several 
> posts we've seen here about SM forgetting passwords after recent 
> upgrades. I, too, would be greatly inconvenienced if SM forgot all those 
> nuisance logins that I entrust to it.
> 
>> As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not
>> merely a password) as my master password. I also periodically
>> change the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial
>> accounts and certain other critical Web sites.
> 
> As a policy, I don't save logins and passwords for financial 
> institutions in SM or anywhere else my computer. However, in a separate 
> file with a nonobvious name and location, I do save fragments or clues 
> to those logins and passwords along with a slew of other unrelated data.
> 
> So for a simple example (this isn't a real case), for one of my banks I 
> may save the fragment "Yankees," which reminds me to add the fragment 
> "rule!!" when I enter it in the website. For another example (again, not 
> a real case), I may save "hIOdnV7QT9A_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (I grabbed this just 
> now from your message id) and remember that the login is "hIOdnV7QT9A" 
> (the first part) and the password is "_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (the second part). 
> Nothing in the file mentions the institutions or their websites, so it's 
> not obvious to anyone else which parts of the mass of data go with what. 
> And since what is there is incomplete (the rest being saved in wetware), 
> cracking it won't help without the other part.
> 
> There are many ways of saving useful reminders (not complete logins or 
> passwords) without assuming unreasonable risks.
> 

I have never seen SeaMonkey forget a saved password.  I have indeed seen
this problem with Thunderbird.  (I do not use SeaMonkey's mail-news
capability.)  However, I think the problem in Thunderbird was fixed
several versions ago.

-- 
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Am I the only one who noticed the following?
*  President Trump issued executive orders
   that increase health-care costs.
*  The Republicans in Congress propose to
   eliminate itemized deductions for
   health-care costs.
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