On 12/3/2017 11:57 AM, cmcadams wrote:
> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>> 2.49.1 and now the development build .2 was/is the most stable release I 
>> ever used so 
>> YMMV.
>> 
>> All depends on your browsing habits, if you keep countless tabs open, how 
>> often you 
>> close the browser and a thousand other variables. It might also be some 
>> shitty java 
>> script only activated when the website sees a never Firefox version or even 
>> bad 
>> browser sniffing.
> 
> No countless tabs, often just one. I don't run the browser continuously.
> 
>> I suggest using a script and adblocker if you don't already do so. If it 
>> still 
>> freezes it should always do it on the same pages then.
> 
> uBlock Origin. Noscript became impossible, making things work that I needed 
> to have 
> work on a specific site became a time-wasting game.
> 
>> And if you did go back from 2.51 your profile might have corruption too. 
>> Check for 
>> indexDB or storage errors on startup. If you see some you need to clean it 
>> first.
> 
> I haven't been playing pioneer, lately, and no explicit startup errors.
> 
>> Just back up your profile and try it. It might not work for you or it might 
>> be 
>> better. You won't know until you try it out.
> 
> OP asked if 2.49.1 ever froze. It has, but not often enough to make it 
> unusable. It 
> can go for prolonged periods without crashing at all. It has crashed under 
> stress...for example, SM 2.49.1 popped like a soap bubble when I tried 
> sending a 
> particularly enormous email loaded with animated GIFs. Weirdly, that happened 
> both 
> when I attached the files AND when I then tried sending by reference. (In the 
> latter 
> case the email DID at least go through.) But it has also crashed when 
> absolutely 
> nothing out of the ordinary is going on, when it will go into its "white out" 
> routine, as described, and I have to kill and restart. No rhyme or reason 
> I've been 
> able to spot. Just a guess: script! I will remember your backup and indexDB 
> advice.
> 
> Craig

Ditto.

Unfortunately it typically doesn't crash, it just freezes so no new
crash reports are generated.

My last crash on 2.49.1 was on 11/15 & that was caused by
hang | NtUserMsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx | user32.dll@0x5d3ed
That seems to have been caused by a plugin:
plugin (web) Foxit PhantomPDF Plugin for Mozilla Version: 2.2.7.818
Filename: npFoxitPhantomPDFPlugin.dll
Which was removed following the crash. SM 2.49.1 Windows has frozen at
least 4 times since. When I look at the Windows task manager it just
shows 'Not Responding'.

I'll see if I can get some repeat site/page to troubleshoot... in the
interim it's Thunderbird & Other Browser time (on Windows - linux is
just fine) until I can figure out the issue. Thanks for all the responses.


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