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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Seamonkey Browser (Jim Dell)
2. Re: Drop Down list (David H. Durgee)
3. Re: Another problem: Mail folders missing (Lil Sparrow)
4. Re: Another problem: Mail folders missing (Lil Sparrow)
5. Re: Another problem: Mail folders missing (Lil Sparrow)
6. Re: Another problem: Mail folders missing (Keith N. McKenna)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 06:59:05 -0500
From: Jim Dell <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Seamonkey Browser
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Mozing wrote:
I use Seamonkey for newsgroups.
In a post there is a link I click on and the default browser (Firefox)
does NOT open, but the Seamonkey browser opens.
I do not like the Seamonkey browser at all !? I find it harder to use
and difficult to see.
How do I fix this !
Are you on Windows 10? If yes just go to Windows setting
and change the default browser
Jim
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 07:48:08 -0500
From: "David H. Durgee" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Drop Down list
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Daniel wrote:
David H. Durgee wrote:
Daniel wrote:
David H. Durgee wrote:
Daniel wrote:
Daniel wrote:
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker
line at the right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3
problem. Theme and distribution dependent.
Tracked in
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208
If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for
Firefox ESR52 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security
fixes and then start building.
FRG
Daniel wrote:
Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE
desktop environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In
my Win7 SM 2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever
had this problem before.
Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE
desktop or in Mageia Linux.
TIA.
Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL
line on the browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a
"ribbon'y" thing which offers me the possibility of bookmarking
the URL and then a down-ward pointing arrowhead which, when I
click on it, gives me the "drop-down" list of web addresses.
It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the
"drop-down" list, that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.
??... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts
in one of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the
Mail & News screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up"
arrowheads or "down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to drag
the scroll bar to where I want it. Not an easy task in some groups.
So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and,
on the M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.
Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have arrowhead
symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.
No, your problem with missing arrowheads has to do with your gtk
theme. You can try other themes to see if you have one that includes
"steppers" or you can use an override file to add them like I did.
Create a file in your home directory as follows:
~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
containing the following:
*{
-GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
-GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
-GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
}
The above will add steppers to your scroll bars as you and I prefer.
Dave
When I booted the Laptop today (about 10 mins ago), I went looking
for the mount point you mentioned, David. Even tried as SU, looking
under my SM installation and in the root directory, but no go!!
Do I need to create the mount point (as SU??), if so where, or was I
looking in all the wrong places??
You should already have the .config directory at a minimum under your
HOME directory.? That is what the ~/ refers to.? If working from the
linux terminal window you will normally be there when the window is
freshly opened and if you have the typical prompt will see " ~ $ " at
the end of the input line indicating you are in your home directory.
If your prompt does not show a ~ before the $ you can get there by
entering cd with no argument.? The .config directory is typically
hidden, but you can still enter it with the cd command.? From anywhere
you should get there with "cd ~/.config" as a command.
I am using linux mint 18.3 x64 cinnamon here and the gtk-3.0
sub-directory already existed for me with a file bookmarks in it used
by the cinnamon desktop.? I had to create the gtk.css file in that
directory with the content I showed.
If for whatever environment you are running there is no gtk-3.0
sub-directory you should be able to create it and then create the
gtk.css file in it.? You might need to restart SeaMonkey to get the
steppers to display after creating the override file.
I hope this helps.
Dave
Thanks for this explanation, David. It allowed me to find that, on my
Mageia 6.0 with KDE Plasma DE, I also have the gtk-3.0 sub-directory
already with a file "bookmarks" in it so same as you.
Now I'm off to 'man' to find out about making a gtk.css file in a
directory that is hidden from me!! Can I do it just using KWrite and
then save it to a hidden directory??
And, as a by-the-by, as I was posting last night, I was thinking that
part of my problem was that when I installed SM 2.49.1, I installed it
as SU ... so any changes I make to the looks of SM might be re-set when
next I start SM. :-(
Your addition to the gtk-3.0 directory should stick though ....
shouldn't they??
That hidden directory is owned by you, so no problems writing in it. It
is hidden simply to keep those who may not know what they are doing from
messing up their systems. You should be able to use KWrite, I used the
editor built into file commander myself.
I am not sure what problems you might have as a consequence of
installing SM as SU, but it might result in a profile that cannot be
changed when you are not SU. If you encounter problems I suspect they
can be fixed by completely uninstalling SM and reinstalling as a normal
user. I would check first where the profile is and who the owner is.
If it is owned by root and you have problems you may have to remove it
as SU when doing a reinstall.
Dave
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 13:32:20 +0000
From: Lil Sparrow <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Another problem: Mail folders missing
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Firstly you have never said if this was POP3 or IMAP mail. This is
very significant because it determines *where* the email is actually
stored.
If is was POP3 then the actually messages would be located on your
hard drive in subdirectories under Mail within your profile directory:
Enter "about:support" in the browser url bar
Under "Application Basics" find "Profile Folder" and click "Open
Folder" button.
There should be a "Mail" subdirectory. If you are restoring your
backup to the correct location all your POP3 accounts would be there
with names like mail.example.com or pop.example.com
I use POP3. I was told a long time ago that using IMAP removes all the
mails from the server once they are download to an email client.
There's nothing in the Mail subdirectory except what is already on the
machine. I can't get any email to download except what was download
after installing SeaMonkey initially.
Thank you for your help. I'll see if I can get my old machine
stabilised and use that instead of the new machine.
Lil Sparrow
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 13:39:35 +0000
From: Lil Sparrow <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Another problem: Mail folders missing
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Ed Mullen wrote:
As Jonathan asked, POP3 or IMAP?
Try launching SeaMonkey's Profile Manager to see if you may have
created a new profile when installing SM.
You should have a SeaMonkey folder in your Start - All Programs menu.
In it should be a Profile Manager shortcut. If not, the correct
startup is:
[drive]:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -profileManager
where [drive] is wherever you installed SM.
It's POP3 and there's only one profile: the default one. I'm using
Windows 10 and there's only the C drive. I don't know where anything
is. It's all hidden.
I don't understand why the latest version of SeaMonkey was designed
not to transfer all mails and local folders like it used to do.
I'm going back to my old machine once it's stabilised.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 13:41:25 +0000
From: Lil Sparrow <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Another problem: Mail folders missing
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Daniel wrote:
Alternatively to what John and Ed have suggested, Lil, with SeaMonkey
running, have a look at the "Tools" drop-down menu and select "Switch
Profiles". Is there more than one SM Profile shown on that screen?? If
so, select the others, in turn, to see if they contain your missing
e-mails.
If not, report back.
There's only one profile, the default one.
The mails are gone.
Lil Sparrow
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 10:41:47 -0500
From: "Keith N. McKenna" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Another problem: Mail folders missing
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
On 1/15/2018 8:32 AM, Lil Sparrow wrote:
Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Firstly you have never said if this was POP3 or IMAP mail. This is
very significant because it determines *where* the email is actually
stored.
If is was POP3 then the actually messages would be located on your
hard drive in subdirectories under Mail within your profile directory:
Enter "about:support" in the browser url bar
Under "Application Basics" find "Profile Folder" and click "Open
Folder" button.
There should be a "Mail" subdirectory. If you are restoring your
backup to the correct location all your POP3 accounts would be there
with names like mail.example.com or pop.example.com
I use POP3. I was told a long time ago that using IMAP removes all the
mails from the server once they are download to an email client.
Someone gave you incredibly wrong information there. In fact it is
completely the reverse. Post Office Protocol 3 (pop3) downloads new
mails from the server to your e-mail client then deletes them from the
server unless you specifically configure your e-mail client not to
delete after download.
Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) Stores all messages on the
server. With many e-mail clients, including SeaMonkey, you can configure
the mail client to store the messages locally as well.
There's nothing in the Mail subdirectory except what is already on the
machine. I can't get any email to download except what was download
after installing SeaMonkey initially.
That is what I would expect to happen if the old machine was also using
pop3 as they would be deleted as soon as they were downloaded. If you
can get to the profile folder of the old machine you *MAY* be able to
retrieve the old saved messages.
Thank you for your help. I'll see if I can get my old machine stabilised
and use that instead of the new machine.
Lil Sparrow
Regards
Keith McKenna
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