Hawker wrote:
On 6/13/2020 8:34 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



Frank. I don't even know where to start with a messed up response like yours. I don't use it, or I don't like that site is not a valid reason to dismiss a problem. All the sites I listed have serious functionality issues in 2.53 that they do not in 2.49. Many of the issues are buried beyond the home screen and unless you are a user it is lost to even try to explain.
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> Your response to much of this reminds me of what activists call victim
> blaming. IE if you didn't wear that sexy outfit you wouldn't have gotten raped
> so it's your fault. If you didn't use that site that I don't like that works
> in every other browser you tried you wouldn't have problems so it's your
> fault, just don't use those sites.

There we are again. Generalized statements not verifyable. I don't blame anyone because I know full well that SeaMonkey has problems with major sites mostly google. Can not be fixed in the near term because they just change them daily and the specs too. You can use whatever you want. I just say I don't becuase if I support them they will continue on their path. In any case I am a tiny minority so they wouldn probably even notice. Does not matter to me. If the site really has something I need I can always unse another browser. So far everything I need works fine.


The bottom line is users are experiencing problems that we are not with other sites. We are, mostly not programmers, the things you ask for are beyond our time and/or technical ability. When I look at Bugzilla I am lost as it isn't readable or usable to a non programmer. Java console? Same thing. I'm an EE not a programmer.

I am sorry. Submitting a crash id from about:crashes or opening Tools->Web Development->Error Console and looking at bold strings with the word error plus posting them somwhere does not need a master degree. Neither does describing the steps or problems and posting full urls. It just needs some organizing but it sure is easier to whine about unnamed crashes and sites not working.

In the end you are right not not be easy or short term fixable so love it or leave it.

FRG
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