> yes its also effective bait for the anal rententive

So you're admitting to just trolling?  Hopefully my reply is generic enough
as to be useful to the general list public.  If not, I'm sorry for wasting
bandwidth (at least I don't quote entire messages in my replies).

> Its not the point, rats running corporate mazes or any maze soon
> foget the walls form their behavior, but from a usablilty perspective

You're uneducated and/or just myopic;  That's all.  I'd agree with your
perspectives as a generality, but you don't know me and/or what I do, so 
you can keep your opinions as such; tripe opinions.  FWIW, I'm using my real
name so you're free to search me on the Google USENET archives or the wayback
engine to see my past homepages and lear all about me, my expertise and
whether I'm a 25-yr old corporate weenie or a computer expert with his own
company for the sake of helping people get their computers working for them.

> The most common really dumb thing I've seen and MS walks then right into 
> it, is people putting everything they ever see or touch on their

This has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.  Actually, its you trying
to point out that users are morons who will do what they're allowed to do so
we should usurp their freedom in exchange for making them more productive
because we're smarter than them, right?  Communist.

Freedom is Freedom; its not "Freedom my way"; its Freedom.

> "press play" than crash courses in encrption technology and techniques.

You have no idea how simple it is to do what I explained, do you?  Oh well;
I guess you can't double-click an icon labelled "Freenet signature.pgp".

> Never failed yet to make them feel comfotable and empowered.

Like yourself?  Misdirected and egomaniacal?

-- 
Michael T. Babcock
CTO, FibreSpeed Ltd.     (Hosting, Security, Consultation, Database, etc)
http://www.fibrespeed.net/~mbabcock/

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