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-----Message d'origine----- De�: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] De la part de [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoy�: jeudi, 6. f�vrier 2003 11:29 ��: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet�: support digest, Vol 1 #377 - 14 msgs Send support mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of support digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Healing feature ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2. version pour os classic (LUC) 3. PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME (juin14) 4. Re: *****SPAM***** [freenet-support] PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME (bdonlan) 5. this ml (Sascha =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=FCstemann?=) 6. Re: *****SPAM***** [freenet-support] PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME (John McCain) 7. Re: Freenet: Kaffe (free software) compatibility: Was: Re: [freenet-support] freesite (Greg Wooledge) 8. Re: [Freenet-list] Freenet: Kaffe (free software) compatibility: Was: R freesite (AARG!Anonymous) 9. Build 554: Server sends no data on requests to port 8888 (Allan Beaufour Larsen) 10. RE: Build 659 (unstable) (Niklas Bergh) 11. Re: Build 554: Server sends no data on requests to port 8888 (Tld) 12. Re: Build 554: Server sends no data on requests to port 8888 (Tld) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 15:43:01 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [freenet-support] Healing feature Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would be nice that during a FEC download, aborting the healing phase automatically save the file. Now if you abort the healing the download is lost. JM2C. Marco -- + il Progetto Freenet - segui il coniglio bianco + * the Freenet Project - follow the white rabbit * * Marco A. Calamari [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marcoc.it * * PGP RSA: ED84 3839 6C4D 3FFE 389F 209E 3128 5698 * + DSS/DH: 8F3E 5BAE 906F B416 9242 1C10 8661 24A9 BFCE 822B + --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 19:37:42 +0200 From: LUC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [freenet-support] version pour os classic Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bonjour, Je souhaite obtenir une version de freenet pour un iMac avec OS 9.0.4. Le lien disponible sur le site freenetproject.org me renvoie au site suivan= t in.netster.com/Index.asp?Site=3DYnV0dHNub3QuY29t. A partir de cet endroit je ne sais plus ou trouver la version a telecharger ? Pouvez-vous m'aider ? Mercu d'avance. Cordialement, -- David LUC R=E9sidence la Tournelle 3, place Lamartine B=E2timent 3 Appartement 201 89000 AUXERRE GSM 06.63.03.00.06 Tel. 03.86.48.18.34 [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 -- --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "juin14" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:51:08 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE UNSUBCRIBE ME= [EMAIL PROTECTED] --__--__-- Message: 4 From: bdonlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** [freenet-support] PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:06:29 -0500 Cc: "juin14" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 05 February 2003 04:51 pm, juin14 wrote: > PLEASE UNSUBCRIBE ME=3D [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _______________________________________________ > support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Didn't you read the notice you got sent when you subscribed? The=20 List-Unsubscribe header? Send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]= rg=20 with 'unsubscribe' in the subject, or follow the link at the botton of ever= y=20 email. =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+QYrmx533NjVSos4RAph4AKCpY1UlibPt3p5uCWsZxGCoejI83QCffbts aBpVV0chVK5d6+LRannytac=3D =3DV9Zb =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:37:16 +0100 From: Sascha =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=FCstemann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: me at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [freenet-support] this ml Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I would like to behave all mailinglist users (this includes the developers, too !) to act as follows, when answering mails: - cut off quotings you are not answering to - configure your email client to have quotings left beginning with ">" - put your answer to the bottom of the mail, or, at least, put empty lines between quotings and your answer when answering in between the quotings. This would help reading the ml for readers which recieve a lot of mails a lot to keep this ml being reader-friendly. Thank you very much for your time reading, understanding and folling this. FYI: Not all of you have a graphical monitor with a high resolution, and finding the nescessary information at the very top few lines is reader-friendly and saves time and keeps being happy when reading it. Besides of that, it would save a lot sending/recieving mails for there are modem-user, too. Again, thank you very much. http://learn.to/quote which was standard, when usenet what up-to-date and which should be standard for ml-lists nowadays. cu Sascha -- GNU Linux | I'd rather just believe that it's done by little elves 2.4.19-cr | running around. on a | i586 | | | --__--__-- Message: 6 Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** [freenet-support] PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME From: John McCain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 05 Feb 2003 17:51:14 -0600 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The link has never worked. On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 16:06, bdonlan wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 05 February 2003 04:51 pm, juin14 wrote: > > PLEASE UNSUBCRIBE ME= [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > support mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > > Didn't you read the notice you got sent when you subscribed? The > List-Unsubscribe header? Send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with 'unsubscribe' in the subject, or follow the link at the botton of every > email. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+QYrmx533NjVSos4RAph4AKCpY1UlibPt3p5uCWsZxGCoejI83QCffbts > aBpVV0chVK5d6+LRannytac= > =V9Zb > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > support mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:34:04 -0500 From: Greg Wooledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Freenet: Kaffe (free software) compatibility: Was: Re: [freenet-support] freesite Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --r4QXMf6/kyF/FvJJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Anyway, till Freenet remains in java, dropping the Kaffe > compatibility IMHO is a fundamental mistake, both from > the point of view of free software and from the security. What exactly do you mean by "Kaffe compatibility"? If Matthew & co. write code which conforms to the specifications of the Java language, but it crashes Kaffe, then clearly this is a bug in Kaffe. Attempting to find workarounds which avoid Kaffe bugs might be helpful for you and me in the short term, but it's a fundamental waste of time for the project in the long term, if efforts could instead be focused on improving Freenet itself. As for the license issue that you mentioned.... The GPL says: "Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not covered by this License; they are outside its scope." Can Freenet be copied? Yes. Can Freenet be distributed? Yes. Can Freenet be modified? I believe so. Then, the GPL goes on to cover the detailed conditions which apply to these three fundamental activities. "1. You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's source code [...]" No problem here. "2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications [...] provided [...]: "a) [statement that you changed the files, and when] "b) [all third parties are licensed to use it at no charge] "c) [must print disclaimer of warranty if it's interactive]" Again, no problem here, except possibly 2c, but that only applies to freenet.client.cli.* which most people don't use anyway. And it's trivial to fix if anyone actually cares. "3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under Section 2) in object code or executable form [...] provided that you also do one of the following: "a) [provide source code] "b) [offer to provide source code at minimal cost] "c) [pass along someone else's offer to provide source code] Now here's the important part: "The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it. For an executable work, complete source code means all the source code for all modules it contains, plus any associated interface definition files, plus the scripts used to control compilation and installation of the executable. However, as a special exception, the source code distributed need not include anything that is normally distributed (in either source or binary form) with the major components (compiler, kernel, and so on) of the operating system on which the executable runs, unless that component itself accompanies the executable." Whenever I see a discussion of the GPL, this paragraph is the one that usually causes the most trouble. In the context of placing Freenet under the GPL, however, it *does not matter whether Freenet can be run on a free Java virtual machine*, because the GPL does not concern itself with the use of the program -- only with copying, distributing and modifying the program. The real issue is whether Freenet can be *developed* with free tools. The answer to this, IMHO, can take a couple different forms: 1) If Sun's Java Software Development Kit is considered "the operating system on which the executable runs", then the non-free javac (compiler) can be considered a normally distributed major component of that operating system. This is an open question. 2) If Freenet can be developed entirely with alternative tools, which could (at least in theory) be distributed along with Freenet, then this paragraph is also satisfied. I compile Freenet using jikes and ant. Jikes is in Debian's main repository, meaning it's Free Software according to Debian's guidelines. Ant, however, is in the "contrib" section, which is a trickier matter. Software in contrib is free, but depends on something which isn't. I don't feel like tracking down all of ant's dependencies and license clauses at the moment. I believe (but I may be mistaken) that Freenet can also be developed without using ant. Jikes and make might be sufficient. If that's the case, then everything should be fine -- just include a written offer to provide jikes (since make is clearly a normal component of every Unix-like system). I can't foresee anyone actually taking you up on the offer, when they could download jikes directly from IBM far more quickly -- but even if they did, sending them a copy of jikes should't drain the Freenet treasury too greatly. (You can always request a few more donations.) FYI, jikes-1.14.tar.gz is 609,341 bytes and is in Freenet at CHK@2a4yGgZlJv6W7Y1YouvjZr1IT5sUAwI,pbg7cCTk98Zq-1OufU0yew I don't believe the remaining clauses of the GPL are relevant to the current discussion, so I'll spare you any further analysis. As far as I can see at the moment, Freenet does not contradict the GNU General Public License. Replies to devl@. --=20 Greg Wooledge | "Truth belongs to everybody." [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - The Red Hot Chili Peppers http://wooledge.org/~greg/ | --r4QXMf6/kyF/FvJJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (OpenBSD) iD8DBQE+Qa18kAkqAYpL9t8RAtwIAJ4o/VLs5pS+LSXD99m8dEoHrjrpfgCePzeh 9iPOQ3UYQoAAHS7MXHZhPHY= =ZMah -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r4QXMf6/kyF/FvJJ-- --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 22:26:35 -0800 From: AARG!Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [freenet-support] Re: [Freenet-list] Freenet: Kaffe (free software) compatibility: Was: R freesite Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] scriveva: > >> is happy to run on build 552; it is slow because run on a > >> slow system; the memory profile and resource use of kaffe > >> is far better respect sun jre. > >> Take care of this compatibility; IMHO is more important > >> then that the mean Freenet developer think. > > > >It crashes in minutes on my machine. The developers have been somewhat > >nonresponsive, the bugs seem to be deep magick and the Project Leaders > >have determined that we don't need to spend money making Kaffe work with > >Freenet. > > This statement is very important; IMHO the Freenet Project > need an explicit position on that question. > > Project Leaders, can we hear you ? > > Releasing the main code under GPL is ineffective, if the > .jar need proprietary software; in my understanding > the use of the GPL licence is incorrect; I think in > this case LGPL is the right type of licence. > > Anyway, till Freenet remains in java, dropping the Kaffe > compatibility IMHO is a fundamental mistake, both from > the point of view of free software and from the security. > > The only other way to solve this problem is IMU, to > release a C (or other freely compilable/runnable language) > version Totally agree with Marco: this shows my old sensation, Freenet is a good project but not its developer group :-( --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Allan Beaufour Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Date: 06 Feb 2003 10:23:54 +0100 Subject: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requests to port 8888 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've just upgraded to build 554, and now I get no data when trying to browse localhost:8888. It worked fine in 552. Any explanation? -- Allan Beaufour Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Niklas Bergh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [freenet-support] Build 659 (unstable) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:26:25 +0100 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 659 would seem to have some problems with announcing. One of the nodes I upgraded yesterday hasn't done a single usefult thing since... Feb 4, 2003 5:39:20 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint Feb 4, 2003 5:39:21 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses Feb 4, 2003 5:39:31 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses Feb 4, 2003 5:39:31 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.SendAnnouncement, QThread-6): Sending NodeAnnouncement failed: freenet.ConnectFailedException: Against peer DSA(eda1 570b d062 a746 1a54 e1cf 2800 9cf4 250f 5328) @ 193.11.247.167:61608 - Cannot connect to: 193.11.247.167:61608 (terminal) Feb 4, 2003 5:39:32 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.SendAnnouncement, QThread-6): Sending NodeAnnouncement failed: freenet.ConnectFailedException: Against peer DSA(e3d9 6da2 c70f 7b75 0ad3 f077 236f bae0 6ed7 7e01) @ 217.215.123.28:19790 - Cannot connect to: 217.215.123.28:19790 (terminal) Feb 4, 2003 5:39:32 PM (freenet.OpenConnectionManager, QThread-5): Established connection: tcpconnection: 134.147.115.87:26277 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:34 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint Feb 4, 2003 5:39:39 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface # tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 160.26.102.198:4620 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:40 PM (freenet.interfaces.FreenetConnectionRunner, QThread-4): Inbound connection failed: java.io.EOFException Feb 4, 2003 5:39:41 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses Feb 4, 2003 5:39:44 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface # tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 217.84.0.234:4103 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:48 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint Feb 4, 2003 5:39:51 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses Feb 4, 2003 5:40:00 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Polling and aggregation of diagnostics. Feb 4, 2003 5:40:01 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.SendAnnouncement, QThread-6): Sending NodeAnnouncement failed: freenet.ConnectFailedException: Against peer DSA(50a8 f534 ea52 f574 455c 00d9 5f7e e11d 2eb4 4570) @ 134.147.115.87:26277 - authentication timed out (terminal) Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.Announcing, QThread-6): Announcement failed to eda1 570b d062 a746 1a54 e1cf 2800 9cf4 250f 5328 at depth 15. Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.Announcing, QThread-6): Announcement failed to e3d9 6da2 c70f 7b75 0ad3 f077 236f bae0 6ed7 7e01 at depth 15. Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.Announcing, QThread-6): Announcement failed to 50a8 f534 ea52 f574 455c 00d9 5f7e e11d 2eb4 4570 at depth 15. Feb 4, 2003 5:40:04 PM (freenet.interfaces.FreenetConnectionRunner, QThread-4): Inbound connection failed: java.io.EOFException Feb 4, 2003 5:40:05 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface # tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 129.116.44.183:33608 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:11 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses Feb 4, 2003 5:40:14 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface # tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 217.84.0.234:4141 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:17 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-6): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint Feb 4, 2003 5:40:21 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-6): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses Feb 4, 2003 5:40:31 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-6): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses Feb 4, 2003 5:40:31 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-6): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint Feb 4, 2003 5:40:34 PM (freenet.interfaces.FreenetConnectionRunner, QThread-10): Inbound connection failed: java.io.EOFException Feb 4, 2003 5:40:35 PM (freenet.interfaces.FreenetConnectionRunner, QThread-4): Inbound connection failed: java.net.SocketTimeoutException: Read timed out Feb 4, 2003 5:40:40 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface # tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 217.84.0.234:4166 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:41 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint, QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses Feb 4, 2003 5:40:43 PM (freenet.interfaces.FreenetConnectionRunner, QThread-4): Inbound connection failed: java.io.EOFException /N _______________________________________________ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:10:21 +0100 From: Tld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requests to port 8888 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Allan Beaufour Larsen wrote: > I've just upgraded to build 554, and now I get no data when trying to > browse localhost:8888. It worked fine in 552. Any explanation? Stupid Q: Have you restarted the node (shut down and re-launched)? I get the very same error when I haven't restarted the node. -- --- TLD > I have evil to make function freenet --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:28:14 +0100 From: Tld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requests to port 8888 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tld wrote: > Allan Beaufour Larsen wrote: >> I've just upgraded to build 554, and now I get no data when trying to >> browse localhost:8888. It worked fine in 552. Any explanation? > Stupid Q: Have you restarted the node (shut down and re-launched)? I get > the very same error when I haven't restarted the node. Okay, I get the same error with the same build. I guess it's the build that's broken :-| -- --- TLD > I have evil to make function freenet --__--__-- _______________________________________________ support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support End of support Digest _______________________________________________ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hawk.freenetproject.org:8080/mailman/listinfo/support
