> The ISP can monitor your email even if they don't relay your mail.. > > With the whole PayPal thing how > > long before ISPs start using *their* TOSes as weapons against freenet > > particpants. > Only if they get scared. Unfortunately it is depressingly easy to > detect nodes at present, we haven't removed the session negotiation (and > other) bytes yet...
Were the shareholders (or Disney, RIAA, MPAA, et al.) that disagree with freenet/P2P principles to get on an ISP(s)'s case with FUD... I have no money but I wager 2 binary digits that one of the above mentioned entities had something to do with PayPal's action taken against the freenet donation account. I also wager that a transfer of a large not-officially-disclosed amount of money or shares between higher-ups in PayPal and said entity(ies) had something to do with the process. Put short: I smell a payoff arrangement. > > There are a lot more ISPs than PayPal's around meaning there is > > statistically a lot more people that disagree with FreeNet's > > principles wokring for ISPs. ISP could do the exact same thing to > > someone participating in freenet either as a node or by participating > > on one of their mailing lists in a similar manner to how PayPal > > suspended the FreeNet donation account. All they'd have to do is look > > through their MTA log and see the destination (they wouldn't even need > > to see the message data) then do their thing ... > Not very likely, but I personally run a mailserver on my box too. > Unfortunately I started getting bounces for reasons similar to the This could easily have been an ISP rather than PayPal. Furthermore whatever or whoever convinced PayPal to make this decision, having been successful in his/her/its efforts, may progress and continue their agenda now that they have determined that their method of warfare against the freenet project is having success. > above. Now I forward my mail through dodo.freenetproject.org via an SSL > tunnel (no, we do not provide this service to anyone but core > developers!). All the trends show that freedoms of speech and press are disintegrating in all areas of the world and that the decline of these freedoms is capitalist-consumer-economically and sometimes socio-theologically motivated. Is money worth losing our freedom for? I don't think so but a lot of shareholders probably disagree with me (because they're rich and can effect political maneuvering). It's going to get to the point where everyone needs to run a freenet node just to have secure private email conversations. Problem is getting everyone you know and transfer email with to run freenet nodes (and some of them may have hardware incapable of running a node effectively). _______________________________________________ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
